My mother in-law is a confirmed man hater, probably on account of her
really bad tastes in men, I'm lucky really, my marriage to her
daughterhas shown her that indeed not all men are the same.  She still
has really bad taste in men though, meh make ya bed an lie in it and
that sorta stuff I guess.

On May 17, 1:16 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> It's said- by some- if your want to know what your bride will be like
> in a few decades, get to know her mother but like many sayings, there
> are exceptions. Since the father is less obvious, it might take longer
> to apprise a groom.
>
> On May 14, 6:53 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Naw. She was just drunk and being an asshole. It was something that I got
> > used to after a while. She was an alcoholic and a nut case. The daughter
> > wasn't an alcoholic but otherwise took after her mom.
>
> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >  I could be wrong to assume there is more to this story, but were they
> > > perhaps getting some sun or otherwise exposed? It could've just been her
> > > trying to play off the situation, 'Ah my dear what a lovely bosom. Don't
> > > forget the condom!'
>
> > > On 5/14/2011 5:12 PM, Chuck Bowling wrote:
>
> > > Maybe. But she was staring blatantly at my crotch when she said it.
>
> > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >>  Let's hope she was referring to your personality. Maybe all the previous
> > >> boys were too afraid to meet her?
>
> > >> On 5/14/2011 10:33 AM, Chuck Bowling wrote:
>
> > >> Heh. My ex's mom was probably one of the strangest creatures I've ever
> > >> met. Her first words to me when we met was "I like your balls". Of course
> > >> she was drunk - I think. I'd never actually seen her sober so maybe it 
> > >> was
> > >> her normal state.
>
> > >> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >>> Well...there might be agreement  about where a daughter/son-in-law
> > >>> should be placed from the mom's point of view...or jail! But I'm not
> > >>> one of them.
>
> > >>> Cities also saw the rise of division of labor rather than tribes
> > >>> traipsing about after herds, i.e. the start of commerce.
>
> > >>> On May 12, 5:33 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > Anybody who would relocate to be near his mother-in-law is probably
> > >>> better
> > >>> > off in an asylum somewhere...
>
> > >>>  > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> > > They were nomads- yes- following herds and fertile vegetation but I
> > >>> > > think they realized the "safety in numbers' as well as organized
> > >>> > > protection that a city would afford. In a sense, man is still 
> > >>> > > nomadic
> > >>> > > and will move for a better paying job, climate, to be near his
> > >>> mother-
> > >>> > > in-law, etc. :-)
>
> > >>> > > On May 12, 12:01 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > I think the theory is that humans were once hunter/gatherers going
> > >>> where
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > > food was. Once we discovered agriculture we began to settle into
> > >>> villages
> > >>> > > > that in turn grew.
>
> > >>> > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:03 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > > Sometimes- it depends on the species (protection of the young).
> > >>> There
> > >>> > > > > is an urge to compete most likely based on survival that tries 
> > >>> > > > > to
> > >>> > > > > insure food, territory, protection from predators that varies 
> > >>> > > > > and
> > >>> is
> > >>> > > > > most subtle in humans via language arts, etc. but the game's the
> > >>> same.
> > >>> > > > > Humans may have watched herds and decided to establish cities is
> > >>> > > > > another thought. And yes, there are great benefits in 
> > >>> > > > > cooperation
> > >>> and
> > >>> > > > > compromise but then we would have to get into a whole new arena.
>
> > >>> > > > > On May 11, 8:01 pm, Chuck Bowling <
> > >>> [email protected]>
> > >>> > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > That's true too. But, it seems that there is more cooperation
> > >>> within
> > >>> > > a
> > >>> > > > > > species than across species. I wonder why that is?
>
> > >>> > > > > > It seems to me like there is as much benefit in cooperation
> > >>> between
> > >>> > > > > species
> > >>> > > > > > as there is within a species.
>
> > >>> > > > > > I guess the answer would likely have something to do with
> > >>> protecting
> > >>> > > > > > offspring.
>
> > >>> > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > The same animals do not work together either. Check out the
> > >>> mating
> > >>> > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and 
> > >>> > > > > > > female,
> > >>> male
> > >>> > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > male, female and female, child to child human beings!!!
>
> > >>> > > > > > > On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling <
> > >>> [email protected]
>
> > >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what 'work
> > >>> together'
> > >>> > > > > actually
> > >>> > > > > > > > means. What I mean when I say that animals don't work
> > >>> together is
> > >>> > > > > that
> > >>> > > > > > > there
> > >>> > > > > > > > is no contract or agreement between them for the mutual
> > >>> benefit
> > >>> > > of
> > >>> > > > > both.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate. Only 
> > >>> > > > > > > > that
> > >>> most
> > >>> > > > > don't.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > For instance;
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride 
> > >>> > > > > > > > along.
> > >>> It
> > >>> > > just
> > >>> > > > > does
> > >>> > > > > > > > because that is where the feeding grounds are.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship because the
> > >>> hippo
> > >>> > > > > actually
> > >>> > > > > > > > gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to clean.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is forewarned.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but there 
> > >>> > > > > > > > is
> > >>> a
> > >>> > > > > difference
> > >>> > > > > > > > between symbiotes and parasites.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist shaman <
> > >>> > > > > [email protected]
> > >>> > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have no 
> > >>> > > > > > > > > real
> > >>> > > evidence
> > >>> > > > > but
> > >>> > > > > > > > > nether do you , although the answer is there to be
> > >>> researched .
> > >>> > > (
> > >>> > > > > not
> > >>> > > > > > > > > essentialy " symbiotic "  .... theres too much to be 
> > >>> > > > > > > > > said
> > >>> ,
> > >>> > > suckers
> > >>> > > > > > > > > feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs off
> > >>> > > hippopotamus
> > >>> > > > > ,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do work
> > >>> together
> > >>> > >  ,
> > >>> > > > > man
> > >>> > > > > > > > > and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca ( shamoo )
> > >>> ,
> > >>> > > every
> > >>> > > > > > > > > scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a hopeless ,
> > >>> vague ,
> > >>> > > speck
> > >>> > > > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > what i mean to convay , oh well .
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > Chuck Bowling wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in a
> > >>> > > symbiotic
> > >>> > > > > > > > > relationship.
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > The monkey and deer don't work together. The monkey
> > >>> sees the
> > >>> > > deer
> > >>> > > > > run
> > >>> > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > being at about the same point in the food chain 
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > figures
> > >>> that
> > >>> > > it
> > >>> > > > > > > should
> > >>> > > > > > > > > run
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > too.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist shaman <
> > >>> > > > > > > [email protected]
> > >>> > > > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > >  i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a human
> > >>> > > experience
> > >>> > > > > .
> > >>> > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > point is that we shouldn't behave like carnivorous
> > >>> beasts ,
> > >>> > > > > deer
> > >>> > > > > > > and
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries , the
> > >>> deer keep
> > >>> > > a
> > >>> > > > > look
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > out , monkeys pick nuts ,
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > is language a good or poor indicator of intellect ?
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > Ash wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I think we are a part of the animal kingdom,
> > >>> last
> > >>> > > time
> > >>> > > > > I
> > >>> > > > > > > > > checked
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > we were mammals in the sapien family. But I think
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > > > mentality
> > >>> > > > > > > of
> > >>> > > > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > herd is a natural behavior to social creatures,
> > >>> that and
> > >>> > > our
> > >>> > > > > > > talented
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > rhetoric for negative reinforcement of behaviors
> > >>> that go
> > >>> > > > > against
> > >>> > > > > > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > norm while the norm is reinforced with 
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > confirmation
> > >>> bias.
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > your statments contradict each other , besides 
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > >>> are
> > >>> > > not
> > >>> > > > > > > animals ,
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > well....... i can be a bit of an animal from 
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > time
> > >>> to
> > >>> > > time
> > >>> > > > > but
> > >>> > > > > > > .....
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:02 pm, rigsy03<[email protected]>
> > >>>  wrote:
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> How can you expect governance unless you can
> > >>> control
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > > > population?
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> What else is new? :-)
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Even a family needs order and control, doesn't
> > >>> it?
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Don't you observe the order of nature? The
> > >>> routines of
> > >>> > > the
> > >>> > > > > > > natural
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be 
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> eaten.
> > >>> :-)
>
> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On May 3, 12:50 pm, the taoist shaman<
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