It's said- by some- if your want to know what your bride will be like
in a few decades, get to know her mother but like many sayings, there
are exceptions. Since the father is less obvious, it might take longer
to apprise a groom.

On May 14, 6:53 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Naw. She was just drunk and being an asshole. It was something that I got
> used to after a while. She was an alcoholic and a nut case. The daughter
> wasn't an alcoholic but otherwise took after her mom.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> >  I could be wrong to assume there is more to this story, but were they
> > perhaps getting some sun or otherwise exposed? It could've just been her
> > trying to play off the situation, 'Ah my dear what a lovely bosom. Don't
> > forget the condom!'
>
> > On 5/14/2011 5:12 PM, Chuck Bowling wrote:
>
> > Maybe. But she was staring blatantly at my crotch when she said it.
>
> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>  Let's hope she was referring to your personality. Maybe all the previous
> >> boys were too afraid to meet her?
>
> >> On 5/14/2011 10:33 AM, Chuck Bowling wrote:
>
> >> Heh. My ex's mom was probably one of the strangest creatures I've ever
> >> met. Her first words to me when we met was "I like your balls". Of course
> >> she was drunk - I think. I'd never actually seen her sober so maybe it was
> >> her normal state.
>
> >> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:22 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Well...there might be agreement  about where a daughter/son-in-law
> >>> should be placed from the mom's point of view...or jail! But I'm not
> >>> one of them.
>
> >>> Cities also saw the rise of division of labor rather than tribes
> >>> traipsing about after herds, i.e. the start of commerce.
>
> >>> On May 12, 5:33 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Anybody who would relocate to be near his mother-in-law is probably
> >>> better
> >>> > off in an asylum somewhere...
>
> >>>  > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:51 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > > They were nomads- yes- following herds and fertile vegetation but I
> >>> > > think they realized the "safety in numbers' as well as organized
> >>> > > protection that a city would afford. In a sense, man is still nomadic
> >>> > > and will move for a better paying job, climate, to be near his
> >>> mother-
> >>> > > in-law, etc. :-)
>
> >>> > > On May 12, 12:01 pm, Chuck Bowling <[email protected]>
> >>> > > wrote:
> >>> > > > I think the theory is that humans were once hunter/gatherers going
> >>> where
> >>> > > the
> >>> > > > food was. Once we discovered agriculture we began to settle into
> >>> villages
> >>> > > > that in turn grew.
>
> >>> > > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:03 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > > Sometimes- it depends on the species (protection of the young).
> >>> There
> >>> > > > > is an urge to compete most likely based on survival that tries to
> >>> > > > > insure food, territory, protection from predators that varies and
> >>> is
> >>> > > > > most subtle in humans via language arts, etc. but the game's the
> >>> same.
> >>> > > > > Humans may have watched herds and decided to establish cities is
> >>> > > > > another thought. And yes, there are great benefits in cooperation
> >>> and
> >>> > > > > compromise but then we would have to get into a whole new arena.
>
> >>> > > > > On May 11, 8:01 pm, Chuck Bowling <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>> > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > That's true too. But, it seems that there is more cooperation
> >>> within
> >>> > > a
> >>> > > > > > species than across species. I wonder why that is?
>
> >>> > > > > > It seems to me like there is as much benefit in cooperation
> >>> between
> >>> > > > > species
> >>> > > > > > as there is within a species.
>
> >>> > > > > > I guess the answer would likely have something to do with
> >>> protecting
> >>> > > > > > offspring.
>
> >>> > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > The same animals do not work together either. Check out the
> >>> mating
> >>> > > of
> >>> > > > > > > AK bears. Or the everlasting frustrations of male and female,
> >>> male
> >>> > > and
> >>> > > > > > > male, female and female, child to child human beings!!!
>
> >>> > > > > > > On May 11, 9:31 am, Chuck Bowling <
> >>> [email protected]
>
> >>> > > > > > > wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > Maybe the problem is a differing opinion on what 'work
> >>> together'
> >>> > > > > actually
> >>> > > > > > > > means. What I mean when I say that animals don't work
> >>> together is
> >>> > > > > that
> >>> > > > > > > there
> >>> > > > > > > > is no contract or agreement between them for the mutual
> >>> benefit
> >>> > > of
> >>> > > > > both.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > Note also that I didn't say no animals cooperate. Only that
> >>> most
> >>> > > > > don't.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > For instance;
>
> >>> > > > > > > > The shark doesn't give the sucker permission to ride along.
> >>> It
> >>> > > just
> >>> > > > > does
> >>> > > > > > > > because that is where the feeding grounds are.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > The hippo example is a symbiotic relationship because the
> >>> hippo
> >>> > > > > actually
> >>> > > > > > > > gives the bird permission to go into it's mouth to clean.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > Diatoms don't give the whale permission to eat them.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > Grazing deer could care less if the monkey is forewarned.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > I'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation but there is
> >>> a
> >>> > > > > difference
> >>> > > > > > > > between symbiotes and parasites.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 12:19 AM, the taoist shaman <
> >>> > > > > [email protected]
> >>> > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > thats not even close to true chuck , sorry i have no real
> >>> > > evidence
> >>> > > > > but
> >>> > > > > > > > > nether do you , although the answer is there to be
> >>> researched .
> >>> > > (
> >>> > > > > not
> >>> > > > > > > > > essentialy " symbiotic "  .... theres too much to be said
> >>> ,
> >>> > > suckers
> >>> > > > > > > > > feeding off bacteria on sharks , birds eating bugs off
> >>> > > hippopotamus
> >>> > > > > ,
> >>> > > > > > > > > diatoms feeding whales , some monkey and deer do work
> >>> together
> >>> > >  ,
> >>> > > > > man
> >>> > > > > > > > > and dog , even recorded proof of man and orca ( shamoo )
> >>> ,
> >>> > > every
> >>> > > > > > > > > scavenger and paracite , ... this is all a hopeless ,
> >>> vague ,
> >>> > > speck
> >>> > > > > of
> >>> > > > > > > > > what i mean to convay , oh well .
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > Chuck Bowling wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > Most species of animal don't actually cooperate in a
> >>> > > symbiotic
> >>> > > > > > > > > relationship.
> >>> > > > > > > > > > The monkey and deer don't work together. The monkey
> >>> sees the
> >>> > > deer
> >>> > > > > run
> >>> > > > > > > and
> >>> > > > > > > > > > being at about the same point in the food chain figures
> >>> that
> >>> > > it
> >>> > > > > > > should
> >>> > > > > > > > > run
> >>> > > > > > > > > > too.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, the taoist shaman <
> >>> > > > > > > [email protected]
> >>> > > > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > >  i view myself as a spiritual being haveing a human
> >>> > > experience
> >>> > > > > .
> >>> > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > point is that we shouldn't behave like carnivorous
> >>> beasts ,
> >>> > > > > deer
> >>> > > > > > > and
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > monkeys work tgether eating nuts and beries , the
> >>> deer keep
> >>> > > a
> >>> > > > > look
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > out , monkeys pick nuts ,
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > is language a good or poor indicator of intellect ?
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > Ash wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I think we are a part of the animal kingdom,
> >>> last
> >>> > > time
> >>> > > > > I
> >>> > > > > > > > > checked
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > we were mammals in the sapien family. But I think
> >>> the
> >>> > > > > mentality
> >>> > > > > > > of
> >>> > > > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > herd is a natural behavior to social creatures,
> >>> that and
> >>> > > our
> >>> > > > > > > talented
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > rhetoric for negative reinforcement of behaviors
> >>> that go
> >>> > > > > against
> >>> > > > > > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > norm while the norm is reinforced with confirmation
> >>> bias.
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/5/2011 3:17 PM, the taoist shaman wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > your statments contradict each other , besides we
> >>> are
> >>> > > not
> >>> > > > > > > animals ,
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > well....... i can be a bit of an animal from time
> >>> to
> >>> > > time
> >>> > > > > but
> >>> > > > > > > .....
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 4, 10:02 pm, rigsy03<[email protected]>
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> How can you expect governance unless you can
> >>> control
> >>> > > the
> >>> > > > > > > > > population?
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> What else is new? :-)
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Even a family needs order and control, doesn't
> >>> it?
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Don't you observe the order of nature? The
> >>> routines of
> >>> > > the
> >>> > > > > > > natural
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> world serve a definite purpose. Eat or be eaten.
> >>> :-)
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On May 3, 12:50 pm, the taoist shaman<
> >>> > > [email protected]>
> >>> > > > > > >  wrote:
>
> >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> are most people really sheepole ? can i get a
> >>> ya or
> >>> > > nay-
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