Worldwide "community" may now belong to the mobile phone. I was spellbound watching Michael Saylor discuss the future of just about everything on "Charlie Rose" last night. His book is "The Mobile Wave". Being naturally out of sync, I consider mobiles a pest or a dog leash. Maybe you can download the video...on your mobile! :-)
On Oct 18, 1:16 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > Well from what I am seeing is amarican prisons are 'hell' and the > other thing is there are a lot of people there on the flimsiness of > evidence and no real proof of the crime... unless you commit a white > collar crime then it is country club time. > > Even though religion has really fallen out of date in ways they need > to do is update beliefs ,,, as for rituals and ceremonies it is how > you really build community.. The Banksters and Lawsters really do not > want the churches to have any power as it interfers with they pillage > of society and churches are the one orginzation that can reign them > in in.. > Allan > > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:26 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do humans need rituals and ceremonies in your opinion? I think I > > remember Joseph Campbell saying they were necessary. Are they or have > > we transformed them in the modern era? Were they instituted as a way > > of belonging? Have we lost or gained? Will civil organizations have > > the same power as religious/ethical? Is a civil prison hell, purgatory > > or limbo? Do you know the USA has the highest number of prisons/ > > prisoners in the world? (At least a few years ago.) > > > On Oct 16, 12:45 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Agree entirely, Rigs ! > > >> The " your-God - my-God " argument ... and "God power" ... ** sigh *** > > >> I believe, Jethro Tull says much of what I feel in : *"My God"* > > >> People -- what have you done -- > >> locked Him in His golden cage. > >> Made Him bend to your religion -- > >> Him resurrected from the grave. > > >> He is the god of nothing -- > >> if that's all that you can see. > > >> You are the god of everything -- > >> He's inside you and me. > > >> So lean upon Him gently > >> and don't call on Him to save you > >> from your social graces > >> and the sins you used to waive. > >> The bloody Church of England -- > >> in chains of history -- > >> requests your earthly presence at > >> the vicarage for tea. > > >> And the graven image you-know-who -- > >> with His plastic crucifix -- > >> he's got him fixed -- > >> confuses me as to who and where and why -- > >> as to how he gets his kicks. > > >> Confessing to the endless sin -- > >> the endless whining sounds. > >> You'll be praying till next Thursday to > >> all the gods that you can count. > > >> On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:01:47 AM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 wrote: > > >> > "God powers" might also be a way of saying possession of grace in a > >> > religious sense. Not sure what race has to do with this as we humans > >> > arrive with the same form- what separates us is equity in several > >> > ways. Political structure is a matter of timing and luck plus picking > >> > the right side/group for the most part if you insist humans are > >> > political by nature. I think there are agreed principals of ethical > >> > behavior- universals- murked up with particulars. There is also a > >> > recognition of evil as a force to contend with- internal and external. > > >> > On Oct 15, 6:40 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > I'll pick up the stone > >> > > (http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/reasons-matter-when-i...) > > >> > > and argue that I cannot know if your Gods are false or not. Not > >> > > because I am not a religious man, or a black man, or a political man, > >> > > but because I am an individual and thereby only possess restrained > >> > > demonstrable God powers myself. > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > All Gods that religious men speak about, brandish shall we say, are > >> > false. > > >> > > > The one distributing those "commandments" included. > > >> > > > Which is not what I would say about individuals who take initiatives > >> > to > >> > > > restrict people from moral turpitude and unethical conduct. > > >> > > > On Monday, October 15, 2012 11:01:46 AM UTC+5:30, Allan Heretic > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> doesn't one of the commandments say something about false gods? > >> > > >> Allan > > >> > > >> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 6:15 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > Thank you, Vam- I hope it is another precious visit. > > >> > > >> > Politics has become a "religion", as well. Just substitue a few > >> > words > >> > > >> > in your paragraph. :-) > > >> > > >> > On Oct 13, 5:38 pm, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Rigs, I can't help but think of the presence of a daughter and > >> > > >> >> her > >> > > >> >> family > >> > > >> >> as " Happy Times " with grand-daughters ... noise, play, shout, > >> > > >> >> request, > >> > > >> >> demand and irritate, reminisce and gossip ,,, ! Hope it acrually > >> > turns > >> > > >> >> to > >> > > >> >> be a happy interlude . > > >> > > >> >> I have no doubts about severely debilitating and cosmic effects > >> > > >> >> of > >> > > >> >> religions that junk reason and humanity, and demand their > >> > adherents too > >> > > >> >> to > >> > > >> >> remain steadfast with the irrational. An institutional frame of > >> > clerics > >> > > >> >> and > >> > > >> >> clergy for global control is no more than a prison, covered with > >> > very > >> > > >> >> beguiling but false promise of freedom. > > >> > > >> >> On Saturday, October 13, 2012 6:20:40 PM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 wrote: > > >> > > >> >> > Not sure if religion, cults, tribal mischief did not have the > >> > same > >> > > >> >> > effect Vam. Consider the countless wars, for instance. But I > >> > think > >> > > >> >> > western man has turn the Age of Machines into a new religion > >> > > >> >> > and > >> > one > >> > > >> >> > could draw many parallels- and has, via artists and authors. > >> > Anyway, > >> > > >> >> > after spending way too much time finding a new niche for my > >> > morning > >> > > >> >> > coffee maker before my daughter and two grand-daughters come > >> > > >> >> > for > >> > the > >> > > >> >> > Xmas holidays (!), I have certainly racked up the equivalent of > >> > a > >> > > >> >> > novena! BTW, a couple of years ago I noticed my feet were > >> > slightly > >> > > >> >> > stiff in the morning and I worried that my flight to the > >> > > >> >> > kitchen > >> > for > >> > > >> >> > a > >> > > >> >> > mug of coffee could be perilous so I bought one of those small > >> > coffee > >> > > >> >> > makers for the upstairs and now include a muffin- just to rev > >> > > >> >> > up > >> > the > >> > > >> >> > joints before I seize the day. :-) Anyway, this might be a good > >> > idea > >> > > >> >> > for any who need to warm/rev up. (This is my machine > >> > confession.) On > >> > > >> >> > the other hand, I have been negotiating with the Divine for a > >> > new > >> > > >> >> > lawn/ > >> > > >> >> > snow guy and I am on the brink of success! lol > > >> > > >> >> > On Oct 11, 6:28 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > Bingo ! * sounding the drums * > > >> > > >> >> > > But what gives it the merit also renders science blind to > >> > > >> >> > > much > >> > that > >> > > >> >> > > is > >> > > >> >> > > essential to our humanity, which are abstract and > >> > > >> >> > > non-material > >> > ... > >> > > >> >> > beauty, > >> > > >> >> > > ethics, morals, truth, compassion, happiness, love, etc. > > >> > > >> >> > > Albert Einstein expressed is eloquently ... as have several > >> > others. > > >> > > >> >> > > There has been much since science overwhelmed us. But > >> > everytime it > >> > > >> >> > > has > >> > > >> >> > > served to delete a part or measure of our humanity, mankind > >> > has > >> > > >> >> > > struck a > >> > > >> >> > > blow at its own foot ! > > >> > > >> >> > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 5:46:04 PM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> >> > > > I wasn't clear. I was thinking about new ideas and > >> > inventions > >> > > >> >> > > > which > >> > > >> >> > > > made older ideas and inventions obsolete or mere stepping > >> > stones > >> > > >> >> > > > to a > >> > > >> >> > > > greater truth. Science seems more open to changes and > >> > advances > >> > > >> >> > > > for the > >> > > >> >> > > > most part though Darwin had a struggle but that was because > >> > he > >> > > >> >> > > > stepped > >> > > >> >> > > > into religious territory which might mean that we are more > >> > open > >> > > >> >> > > > to > >> > > >> >> > > > change when it does not involve emotions and beliefs versus > >> > > >> >> > > > demonstrable facts. > > >> > > >> >> > > > On Oct 9, 9:08 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > > > It will still be more clever than the rest ! > > >> > > >> >> > > > > On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 5:04:27 PM UTC+5:30, rigsy03 > >> > wrote: > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > Until the next cleverest man/woman comes along! :-) > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > On Oct 8, 5:56 pm, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > " Machines are only as clever as they have been > >> > programmed > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > to > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > be. In some cases that may mean smarter than some > >> > humans > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > for > >> > > >> >> > > > specific > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > acts or purposes ... " > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > If a machine is programmed by the cleverest man, > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > it would not be ' only ' as clever as it has been > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > programmed > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > but it would be more clever than every other man on > >> > the > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > planet ! > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > On Monday, October 8, 2012 5:01:02 PM UTC+5:30, > >> > rigsy03 > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > And certain ants have also figured out how to enter > >> > the > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > honey > >> > > >> >> > bee > >> > > >> >> > > > as a > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > parasite which has an ominous impact on > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > pollination. > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Species > >> > > >> >> > pick > >> > > >> >> > > > up > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > their behaviors from their groups- some are more > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > dedicated- > >> > > >> >> > > > patterns > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > can be disrupted.// Anyway, aren't you equating > >> > worth > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > > with > >> > > >> >> > money/ > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --
