Allan, just download the update for the milk and honey version and get over with it! Always the same complaints with you techy guys!
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > has the supreme court of Rigsy ruled that cookies must be supplied on demand?? > Allan > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:39 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> You are all very sweet to wish me well but I am safely nestled in >> America's belly. I will join your collective wishes for the east coast >> as it is ruinous and very sad to track.//Catching up: the fall lawn >> clean-up and cut backs were the best ever- hope the snow service is >> the same later on. My daughter has scared me with visions of a sugar >> plum Christmas she remembers from her childhood forgetting that she >> has abscounded with most all the decorations- even to the cookie >> cutters! We'll work it out. Have been getting bedrooms and kitchen in >> gear for the holidays so there isn't a last minute rush/heart attack. >> This house is a riot- but that is another topic. A couple invitations- >> will go to one- a baby shower. Exit the momastery! And yes, Gabby, was >> thinking of the warm sun during these cloudy days and cold nights. Saw >> myself sitting in the desert- very strange. Love to all- be safe. >> >> On Oct 30, 7:53 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Yes, hope all is well for you rigsy. In Detroit we have Sandy's wind and a >>> bit of rain and sleet, but nothing like NYC. thinking of you with love. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:20:35 PM UTC-4, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> > sounds like you are really going to be needing your snow guy Rigsy,, >>> > heard WV had over a meter of snow fall that must be a bitch. >>> > Allan >>> >>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:56 PM, gabbydott >>> > <[email protected]<javascript:>> >>> > wrote: >>> > > You see, Neil, that's exactly why I thought we have Rigsy write the >>> > > abstract and make her come out of the kitchen after her snow guy had >>> > > done his job. You have spoiled it all now! >>> >>> > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:25 AM, archytas >>> > > <[email protected]<javascript:>> >>> > wrote: >>> > >> I've just become a paradigm case of Bill's "bored traveller" - long >>> > >> weekend with an American friend in Rome looking at art entailing the >>> > >> Vatican (which didn't spontaneously combust) - Bernini etc. There was >>> > >> a Hombeck on candle-light which will stick forever. I got the >>> > >> impression Bernini could do something in static stone that would give >>> > >> the impression of a Jimmy Johnstone dribble (he was the best ever at >>> > >> this spectacle, if not the most effective player in modern soccer >>> > >> terms). Couldn't get a coffee in the city that never sleeps at 3 a.m. >>> > >> and ended-up in a Mcdonalds. The place is a dreadful tourist rip-off >>> > >> and a week would have bankrupted us. Flight home was delayed by an >>> > >> outbreak of Italian indolence and refusal to drive the bus to the >>> > >> plane. Airport full of disgruntled Americans delayed by Sandy. >>> > >> Greece and Rome descend from slave economies and attitudes that work >>> > >> scars the soul. >>> > >> There was so much to see and it was so pleasant to walk I came home >>> > >> hobbling on a blister. >>> >>> > >> Much biology is based on the economics of energy - we always seem to >>> > >> want explanation in terms of why an organism would expend the energy >>> > >> required to maintain an organ and so on. Our brains and even memory >>> > >> need justification in energy terms. Much of my own interest in the >>> > >> subject concerns desire to overcome its predestination - which these >>> > >> days would be talked about through the notion of co-evolution and its >>> > >> 'arms races'. My own guess for a long time has been we need to >>> > >> organise work differently - I favour a federal Europe (World) of a >>> > >> free table with work as a shared obligation - but one always finds >>> > >> such opinion has been held before - one example here would be the >>> > >> Strasser brothers who organised the Nazis when Hitler came out of >>> > >> jail. Politically I tend to think we are stuck in the hands of a >>> > >> rentier class much as in the inter-war years. >>> >>> > >> I think some UFO-dreaming could help us understand this and even Star >>> > >> Trek touches the fringes. We might, very un-art, start by wondering >>> > >> who cleans the toilets on the Enterprise. >>> >>> > >> On 29 Oct, 19:02, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> The Golden Way out of deference? Yes, that's probably the meaning >>> > >>> Molly is trying to convey. Thanks, Allan. >>> >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Gabby one of the major deference between me and christianity is I >>> > see >>> > >>> > God as what makes up my being,, I do not see God as being else >>> > where. >>> > >>> > I am expected to live up to my beliefs not making excuses to justify >>> > >>> > violating those rules. >>> > >>> > Allan >>> >>> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Oh, hi Molly! Yes, it's true, I dared to read the bible on the same >>> > >>> >> level as fairy tales. My Protestant nature, I guess. Going out, >>> > >>> >> looking out, speaking out is part of that tradition too. What is it >>> > in >>> > >>> >> your life that makes you being different? >>> >>> > >>> >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Molly <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >>> Looking for God outside oneself can lead to magical gang gods at a >>> > level >>> > >>> >>> where only the fit and corrupt survive. Many fairy tales are >>> > imbued with >>> > >>> >>> mystical thinking, including the bible. >>> >>> > >>> >>> On Monday, October 29, 2012 5:20:17 AM UTC-4, gabbydott wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>>> I don't know why these far-away and up-above gods and godesses >>> > never >>> > >>> >>>> really made it into my heart. Maybe the down-to-earth fairy tales >>> > >>> >>>> resembled my surroundings much more. It gives me the creeps when >>> > >>> >>>> little street gangstas are referring to Nemesis and believe they >>> > have >>> > >>> >>>> got the key to the kingdom now. >>> >>> > >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:35 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >>>> > I pray to a God everyday but am not sure which one. He is male >>> > and >>> > >>> >>>> > seems helpful. Today he bolstered my strength rearranging some >>> > >>> >>>> > furniture then rebolstered me moving stuff back as it was. >>> > However, I >>> > >>> >>>> > cooked a hearty meal of steak, potatoes and asparagus for >>> > insurance.// >>> > >>> >>>> > I think the Greek and Roman gods and goddesses represent human >>> > nature >>> > >>> >>>> > and traits- really provide some valuable insights for mere >>> > mortals. >>> >>> > >>> >>>> > On Oct 28, 12:45 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >>>> >> Ah Lee, by that time you would have forgotten where you were >>> > coming >>> > >>> >>>> >> from! >>> >>> > >>> >>>> >> I like monotheism, because it supports my view of myself as an >>> > >>> >>>> >> individual. And it allows me to act upon it as such. I am >>> > aware that I >>> > >>> >>>> >> am a social being though. Polytheism would be able to account >>> > for >>> > >>> >>>> >> that, but would probably only confuse me. >>> >>> > >>> >>>> >> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Lee Douglas < >>> > [email protected]> >>> > >>> >>>> >> wrote: >>> > >>> >>>> >> > Well that is true Rigsy, and perhaps your prediction is also >>> > true. >>> > >>> >>>> >> > However >>> > >>> >>>> >> > religious faith is 'unreasonable' belief. As it is my >>> > stance that we >>> > >>> >>>> >> > all >>> > >>> >>>> >> > hold to some of these along the way, then perhaps it is a >>> > wholly >>> > >>> >>>> >> > human/sentient being trait and we'll not be rid of it, only >>> > time will >>> > >>> >>>> >> > tell. >>> > >>> >>>> >> > Just one of the reasons I want to reach at least 400 years >>> > old. >>> >>> > >>> >>>> >> > On Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:52:50 PM UTC, rigsy03 wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> Really? What about the Italian scientists who face prison >>> > time for >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> failing to predict the severity of an earthquake? What >>> > harmony under >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> the mantle of monotheism? Science and technology will make >>> > god(s) >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> obsolete and society can still be managed through various >>> > value >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> systems based on new realities and methods of control. >>> > Presently, we >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> are trying to integrate two oppositional positions which >>> > accounts >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> for >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> a good amount of absurdity and disappointment. As extinct >>> > creatures >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> might have warned us, sentimentality is deadly. >>> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> On Oct 28, 2:12 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > I really do not see much beyond monotheism atheism holds >>> > little >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > but >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wishful madness, and as for polytheism the universes >>> > would be >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > totally >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > different.. Just doesn't work.. You are right arrogance >>> > is a >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > tremendous problem which I seriously doubt man will over >>> > come.. >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > those >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that are arrogant have little reason to change.. It is >>> > the >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > monotheism >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > that keeps some what harmony,, the problems I see come >>> > from man >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > changing the laws of God that have been handed down >>> > through the >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > generations .. It seems these changes are really >>> > designed to >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > benefit >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > them and their goals. >>> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > without a singular God there would be no harmony even >>> > with in >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > nature >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > and the predictability of science would disappear. >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > Allan >>> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:12 AM, James < >>> > [email protected]> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > wrote: >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > I agree with S. W. Hawking where this is unknown >>> > territory, we >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > have a >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > tendency to being destructive and careless. We must >>> > evolve if we >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > wish >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > to >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > survive, boldly while trying to work out that Achilles >>> > heel >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > (arrogance). >>> >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > Allan I was thinking similarly in part, I am not so >>> > sure >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > monotheism is >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > for >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > everyone though. Where people can devise stories to fit >>> > a niche >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > in >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > nature, >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > then further reconcile from that I think there is much >>> > less to >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > say on >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > God >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > than people might, it may even be sacrilege to do so. >>> > In the >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > sense of >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > attempting authority on the nameless, a belligerent act >>> > so to >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > speak. >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > Agrarian civilization, centralization of authority, and >>> > cultural >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > homogeneity >>> > >>> >>>> >> >> > > (dare add monotheism) have >>> >>> ... >>> >>> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> >> >> > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > > -- > > > --
