But what does the term "globalization" mean? It is an abstract term.
(Sort of like Alexander's "empire" at his death- to be defined by the
strongest?)



On Nov 17, 4:18 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree with you Saris are very beautiful and believe me that can get
> into the pricey range. Her wedding saris was well over 30,000 Euro and
> her mothers was just as bad..  was never told the exact price..  but
> it was out of the finest silk..
>
> There are benefits to globalization ,, unfortunately those benefits
> are easily destroyed by those people and companies that are extremely
> selfish and uncaring...  Greedy is to soft a word for their
> activities..
> Allan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:16 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > A great question- what is it? Maybe it is what the major powers/
> > economies tell us it is. Facts betray the huge inequities among the
> > nations/humanity. I would hope we don't lose some of our differences
> > and adopt one style and language. Saris are my favorite to watch and
> > think Indian and Asian women beat out Americans- the men aren't bad
> > either. Remember when we were all so separated and the "other" seemed
> > to look the same- a kind of blindness, I guess.
>
> > On Nov 15, 8:47 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> The big question is what is globalising.  In part this is stuff we
> >> don't want.  We are still haunted by superstition, sexism and
> >> imperialism.  I'd like to see more of our economies about building
> >> safe communities and see foreign policies and our limited vision of
> >> 'efficiency' as the major bars to this.  Disease is likely
> >> globalising, the ability to make WMDs and take part in manufacturing
> >> for war.
>
> >> On 15 Nov, 23:34, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > I would substitute ignorance for indifference.
>
> >> > On Nov 15, 10:00 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > Untill nationalisn has distinctive meaning, political and cultural, and
> >> > > economic, free movement of people can only be a pipe dream.
>
> >> > > And the "meaning," it must be remembered, is an emotional - mental 
> >> > > thing...
> >> > > not merely intellectual. That's how phenomenal dimensions of any thing
> >> > > extends ... from indifference to emotional values, covering almost
> >> > > everything existential in society, politics and economics ... and to
> >> > > intellectual conviction, which is singularly absent in everything
> >> > > experiential that individuals bring into their attitudes and everyday
> >> > > decision-making at their present level evolution.
>
> >> > > One of the most intellectual calls was issued by Marx. No one could 
> >> > > stand
> >> > > up to its rigour ... not the champions and subscribers, not the staus
> >> > > quoist rest of the world. Capitalism stays, because it factors in our
> >> > > emotional drives, not because it is most just and fair to the weakest 
> >> > > in
> >> > > our midst !
>
> >> > > Au revoir ...
>
> >> > > On Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:15:49 PM UTC+5:30, Lee Douglas wrote:
>
> >> > > > Meh!  As you know I'm all for freedom of movement, live where you 
> >> > > > like, if
> >> > > > much of India wish to migrate to The USA and settle in the Mid West 
> >> > > > then go
> >> > > > to it.  However with around only 3-5% of Earth's land mass populated 
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > with an increasing amount of that population living in urban 
> >> > > > environments I
> >> > > > daresay that India has much land of it's own in which it's residents 
> >> > > > can
> >> > > > settle.  Even when much of the land is gone, we are in fact making 
> >> > > > strides
> >> > > > for sea based habitat.
>
> >> > > > Over population is a concern, much, much more for reasons of food
> >> > > > and energy production though than any reasons of not enough land 
> >> > > > mass.
>
> >> > > > On Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:15:16 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote:
>
> >> > > >> Okay there is large sections of farm land in the Mid west  maybe we
> >> > > >> can help the people of India  resettle into that area..??
> >> > > >> Allan
>
> >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]>
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> > Umm myself I can't see globalisation as anything but a good 
> >> > > >> > thing.  The
> >> > > >> > sooner we find that our cultural differences do not matter and we 
> >> > > >> > learn
> >> > > >> to
> >> > > >> > judge the individual(as opposed to the group) the better as far 
> >> > > >> > as I'm
> >> > > >> > concerned.  Ultimately it will take global working together to 
> >> > > >> > sort out
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> > worlds ills.
>
> >> > > >> > Overpopulation is a concern, but to too much of one at this 
> >> > > >> > moment in
> >> > > >> time,
> >> > > >> > there are huge tracts of land still to be settled.
>
> >> > > >> > On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:22:17 UTC, archytas wrote:
>
> >> > > >> >> One of the Faust stories more or less predicts the mechanism for 
> >> > > >> >> the
> >> > > >> >> rise of Nazi Germany including the funding.
>
> >> > > >> >> On 13 Nov, 19:33, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > Wetlands are very important.  The recovery work here was done
> >> > > >> centuries
> >> > > >> >> > ago.. and here we are very eco awe.
> >> > > >> >> > Allan
>
> >> > > >> >> > Matrix  **  th3 beginning light
> >> > > >> >> > On Nov 13, 2012 2:03 PM, "rigsy03" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > >> >> > > By coincidence of a former discussion, Faust was draining a 
> >> > > >> >> > > swamp
> >> > > >> as
> >> > > >> >> > > part of his spiritual rehab.//Another subject, however, 
> >> > > >> >> > > would be
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> >> > > wetlands and their role in the ecology.
>
> >> > > >> >> > > On Nov 12, 6:11 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > > The Dutch are crazy a and very adept at working with the 
> >> > > >> >> > > > sea..
> >> > > >> and
> >> > > >> >> > > > yes
> >> > > >> >> > > > it cost massive  supplying its own power amounts of 
> >> > > >> >> > > > money..  but
> >> > > >> >> > > > land
> >> > > >> >> > > > recovery is and can be very beneficial to the society.  We 
> >> > > >> >> > > > have
> >> > > >> to
> >> > > >> >> > > > protect our dunes to protect our country..  there is very 
> >> > > >> >> > > > little
> >> > > >> sea
> >> > > >> >> > > > front property unlike both the east ans west coasts of the 
> >> > > >> >> > > > US..
> >> > > >> >> > > > where the coast is used mainly for private residences
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > The dutch have been using green houses for years long 
> >> > > >> >> > > > before
> >> > > >> >> > > > Israel,,
> >> > > >> >> > > >  the concept of vertical greenhouses id one for producing
> >> > > >> produce in
> >> > > >> >> > > > areas where it is needed like high density cities where 
> >> > > >> >> > > > space is
> >> > > >> at
> >> > > >> >> > > > a
> >> > > >> >> > > > premium and population is at its maximum..  trying to 
> >> > > >> >> > > > bring down
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> >> > > > cost of food..  and it is based on hydroponics and 
> >> > > >> >> > > > objectively
> >> > > >> to be
> >> > > >> >> > > > self sufficient power wise..  the idea is not particularly 
> >> > > >> >> > > > cheap
> >> > > >> but
> >> > > >> >> > > > as for the benefit of society is extremely valuable.
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > Some ideas need to be looked at in relationship to self.
> >> > > >> >> > > > Allan
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:59 AM, rigsy03 
> >> > > >> >> > > > <[email protected]>
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > > > Israel has been very successful with greenhouse 
> >> > > >> >> > > > > agriculture. A
> >> > > >> >> > > > > nearby
> >> > > >> >> > > > > restaurant contracted with local homeowners to grow some 
> >> > > >> >> > > > > fresh
> >> > > >> >> > > > > produce
> >> > > >> >> > > > > which might catch on. I consider the labor and high water
> >> > > >> usage a
> >> > > >> >> > > > > negative, however.
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > > On Nov 11, 5:23 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> I don't think that will work,,  I think your solution 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> would
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> result in
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> wide spread famine world wide  though the chemical 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> farmers
> >> > > >> are
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> not the
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> best solution  they are not the worst either  from
> >> > > >> supermarkets
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> to
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> farmers markets would again result in wide spread 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> hunger and
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> famine..
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> corporations have the ability to preserve food and 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> spread it
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> trough
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> out the world where it is needed..  one of the problems 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> is
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> distribution  .. and production..  at one time I owned
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> approximately
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> 200 hectors of land  could grow wheat on some of it and 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> grass
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> that was
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> about it..  the other was so let me put it my best 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> crops were
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> rocks..
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Dad and I built a house out of them..
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Using today's technology if we created a vertical green 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> house
> >> > > >> (my
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> dad
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> and I discussed it some 40 - 45 years ago) of creating a
> >> > > >> vertical
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> green house..  My father's knowledge was the most 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> advance in
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> hydroponics there still was a lot lacking  and he 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> continued
> >> > > >> to do
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> research..
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> But Andrew instead of using all of our land to maybe 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> poorly
> >> > > >> feed
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> 50..
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> with today's technology using a vertical green house we 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> could
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> easily
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> feed 50,000 people in and ecologically friendly manner 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> ,,
> >> > > >> that
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> would
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> include providing protein other than vegetables.
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Stepping backwards is not a solution.
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Allan
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, andrew vecsey <
> >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > The solution to all this mess is to abandon the misled
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > scientists,
> >> > > >> >> > > the
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > harmful engineers and the speculating marketeers and 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > to
> >> > > >> return
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > to
> >> > > >> >> > > nature and
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > organic farming embodying ecological principles that 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > are
> >> > > >> >> > > sustainable and
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > have been sustained for billions of years. Return 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > farms
> >> > > >> from
> >> > > >> >> > > corporate
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > chemical farmers with their monocultures back to 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > family run
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > farms.
> >> > > >> >> > > Turn the
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > super markets back into farmer markets.  The game that
> >> > > >> values
> >> > > >> >> > > profits higher
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > than democracy, human rights and environmental 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > protection
> >> > > >> must
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > be
> >> > > >> >> > > abandoned
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > in order to survive.
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > On Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:57:20 AM UTC+1, Allan
> >> > > >> Heretic
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > wrote:
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> There has been fears of over population for centuries
> >> > > >> now..
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> you
> >> > > >> >> > > have
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> only pointed to problems that are already well know. 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> At
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> same
> >> > > >> >> > > time
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> I do not read any possible soutions.
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> How are the problems solved realistically or not 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> realistic
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> manner..
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> you never know where the solution comes from.
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> Allan
>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, andrew vecsey <
> >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]>
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, tearing down 
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > anything
> >> > > >> too
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > big,
> >> > > >> >> > > too high,
> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > and
>
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