Globalization is reverting to the ownership and control of everything world wide by the few. That is the danger of it all.
On Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:41:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > I think realistically globalization is revering to the access to > everything world wide > Allan > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > But what does the term "globalization" mean? It is an abstract term. > > (Sort of like Alexander's "empire" at his death- to be defined by the > > strongest?) > > > > > > > > On Nov 17, 4:18 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree with you Saris are very beautiful and believe me that can get > >> into the pricey range. Her wedding saris was well over 30,000 Euro and > >> her mothers was just as bad.. was never told the exact price.. but > >> it was out of the finest silk.. > >> > >> There are benefits to globalization ,, unfortunately those benefits > >> are easily destroyed by those people and companies that are extremely > >> selfish and uncaring... Greedy is to soft a word for their > >> activities.. > >> Allan > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:16 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > A great question- what is it? Maybe it is what the major powers/ > >> > economies tell us it is. Facts betray the huge inequities among the > >> > nations/humanity. I would hope we don't lose some of our differences > >> > and adopt one style and language. Saris are my favorite to watch and > >> > think Indian and Asian women beat out Americans- the men aren't bad > >> > either. Remember when we were all so separated and the "other" seemed > >> > to look the same- a kind of blindness, I guess. > >> > >> > On Nov 15, 8:47 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> The big question is what is globalising. In part this is stuff we > >> >> don't want. We are still haunted by superstition, sexism and > >> >> imperialism. I'd like to see more of our economies about building > >> >> safe communities and see foreign policies and our limited vision of > >> >> 'efficiency' as the major bars to this. Disease is likely > >> >> globalising, the ability to make WMDs and take part in manufacturing > >> >> for war. > >> > >> >> On 15 Nov, 23:34, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >> > I would substitute ignorance for indifference. > >> > >> >> > On Nov 15, 10:00 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> >> > > Untill nationalisn has distinctive meaning, political and > cultural, and > >> >> > > economic, free movement of people can only be a pipe dream. > >> > >> >> > > And the "meaning," it must be remembered, is an emotional - > mental thing... > >> >> > > not merely intellectual. That's how phenomenal dimensions of any > thing > >> >> > > extends ... from indifference to emotional values, covering > almost > >> >> > > everything existential in society, politics and economics ... > and to > >> >> > > intellectual conviction, which is singularly absent in > everything > >> >> > > experiential that individuals bring into their attitudes and > everyday > >> >> > > decision-making at their present level evolution. > >> > >> >> > > One of the most intellectual calls was issued by Marx. No one > could stand > >> >> > > up to its rigour ... not the champions and subscribers, not the > staus > >> >> > > quoist rest of the world. Capitalism stays, because it factors > in our > >> >> > > emotional drives, not because it is most just and fair to the > weakest in > >> >> > > our midst ! > >> > >> >> > > Au revoir ... > >> > >> >> > > On Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:15:49 PM UTC+5:30, Lee Douglas > wrote: > >> > >> >> > > > Meh! As you know I'm all for freedom of movement, live where > you like, if > >> >> > > > much of India wish to migrate to The USA and settle in the Mid > West then go > >> >> > > > to it. However with around only 3-5% of Earth's land mass > populated and > >> >> > > > with an increasing amount of that population living in urban > environments I > >> >> > > > daresay that India has much land of it's own in which it's > residents can > >> >> > > > settle. Even when much of the land is gone, we are in fact > making strides > >> >> > > > for sea based habitat. > >> > >> >> > > > Over population is a concern, much, much more for reasons of > food > >> >> > > > and energy production though than any reasons of not enough > land mass. > >> > >> >> > > > On Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:15:16 UTC, Allan Heretic > wrote: > >> > >> >> > > >> Okay there is large sections of farm land in the Mid west > maybe we > >> >> > > >> can help the people of India resettle into that area..?? > >> >> > > >> Allan > >> > >> >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Lee Douglas < > [email protected]> > >> >> > > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> > Umm myself I can't see globalisation as anything but a good > thing. The > >> >> > > >> > sooner we find that our cultural differences do not matter > and we learn > >> >> > > >> to > >> >> > > >> > judge the individual(as opposed to the group) the better as > far as I'm > >> >> > > >> > concerned. Ultimately it will take global working together > to sort out > >> >> > > >> the > >> >> > > >> > worlds ills. > >> > >> >> > > >> > Overpopulation is a concern, but to too much of one at this > moment in > >> >> > > >> time, > >> >> > > >> > there are huge tracts of land still to be settled. > >> > >> >> > > >> > On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:22:17 UTC, archytas wrote: > >> > >> >> > > >> >> One of the Faust stories more or less predicts the > mechanism for the > >> >> > > >> >> rise of Nazi Germany including the funding. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> On 13 Nov, 19:33, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Wetlands are very important. The recovery work here was > done > >> >> > > >> centuries > >> >> > > >> >> > ago.. and here we are very eco awe. > >> >> > > >> >> > Allan > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Matrix ** th3 beginning light > >> >> > > >> >> > On Nov 13, 2012 2:03 PM, "rigsy03" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > By coincidence of a former discussion, Faust was > draining a swamp > >> >> > > >> as > >> >> > > >> >> > > part of his spiritual rehab.//Another subject, > however, would be > >> >> > > >> the > >> >> > > >> >> > > wetlands and their role in the ecology. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > On Nov 12, 6:11 am, Allan H <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > The Dutch are crazy a and very adept at working with > the sea.. > >> >> > > >> and > >> >> > > >> >> > > > yes > >> >> > > >> >> > > > it cost massive supplying its own power amounts of > money.. but > >> >> > > >> >> > > > land > >> >> > > >> >> > > > recovery is and can be very beneficial to the > society. We have > >> >> > > >> to > >> >> > > >> >> > > > protect our dunes to protect our country.. there is > very little > >> >> > > >> sea > >> >> > > >> >> > > > front property unlike both the east ans west coasts > of the US.. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > where the coast is used mainly for private > residences > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > The dutch have been using green houses for years > long before > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Israel,, > >> >> > > >> >> > > > the concept of vertical greenhouses id one for > producing > >> >> > > >> produce in > >> >> > > >> >> > > > areas where it is needed like high density cities > where space is > >> >> > > >> at > >> >> > > >> >> > > > a > >> >> > > >> >> > > > premium and population is at its maximum.. trying > to bring down > >> >> > > >> the > >> >> > > >> >> > > > cost of food.. and it is based on hydroponics and > objectively > >> >> > > >> to be > >> >> > > >> >> > > > self sufficient power wise.. the idea is not > particularly cheap > >> >> > > >> but > >> >> > > >> >> > > > as for the benefit of society is extremely valuable. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Some ideas need to be looked at in relationship to > self. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Allan > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:59 AM, rigsy03 < > [email protected]> > >> >> > > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > Israel has been very successful with greenhouse > agriculture. A > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > nearby > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > restaurant contracted with local homeowners to > grow some fresh > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > produce > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > which might catch on. I consider the labor and > high water > >> >> > > >> usage a > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > negative, however. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > On Nov 11, 5:23 am, Allan H <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> I don't think that will work,, I think your > solution would > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> result in > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> wide spread famine world wide though the > chemical farmers > >> >> > > >> are > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> not the > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> best solution they are not the worst either > from > >> >> > > >> supermarkets > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> to > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> farmers markets would again result in wide spread > hunger and > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> famine.. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> corporations have the ability to preserve food > and spread it > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> trough > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> out the world where it is needed.. one of the > problems is > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> distribution .. and production.. at one time I > owned > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> approximately > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> 200 hectors of land could grow wheat on some of > it and grass > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> that was > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> about it.. the other was so let me put it my > best crops were > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> rocks.. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Dad and I built a house out of them.. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Using today's technology if we created a vertical > green house > >> >> > > >> (my > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> dad > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> and I discussed it some 40 - 45 years ago) of > creating a > >> >> > > >> vertical > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> green house.. My father's knowledge was the most > advance in > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> hydroponics there still was a lot lacking and he > continued > >> >> > > >> to do > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> research.. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> But Andrew instead of using all of our land to > maybe poorly > >> >> > > >> feed > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> 50.. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> with today's technology using a vertical green > house we could > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> easily > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> feed 50,000 people in and ecologically friendly > manner ,, > >> >> > > >> that > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> would > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> include providing protein other than vegetables. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Stepping backwards is not a solution. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Allan > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, andrew vecsey < > >> >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > The solution to all this mess is to abandon the > misled > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > scientists, > >> >> > > >> >> > > the > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > harmful engineers and the speculating > marketeers and to > >> >> > > >> return > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > to > >> >> > > >> >> > > nature and > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > organic farming embodying ecological principles > that are > >> >> > > >> >> > > sustainable and > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > have been sustained for billions of years. > Return farms > >> >> > > >> from > >> >> > > >> >> > > corporate > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > chemical farmers with their monocultures back > to family run > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > farms. > >> >> > > >> >> > > Turn the > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > super markets back into farmer markets. The > game that > >> >> > > >> values > >> >> > > >> >> > > profits higher > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > than democracy, human rights and environmental > protection > >> >> > > >> must > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > be > >> >> > > >> >> > > abandoned > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > in order to survive. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > On Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:57:20 AM UTC+1, > Allan > >> >> > > >> Heretic > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> There has been fears of over population for > centuries > >> >> > > >> now.. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> you > >> >> > > >> >> > > have > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> only pointed to problems that are already well > know. At > >> >> > > >> the > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> same > >> >> > > >> >> > > time > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> I do not read any possible soutions. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> How are the problems solved realistically or > not realistic > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> manner.. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> you never know where the solution comes from. > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> Allan > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, andrew vecsey > < > >> >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]> > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, tearing down > anything > >> >> > > >> too > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > big, > >> >> > > >> >> > > too high, > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > and > >> > >> >> ... > >> > >> >> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - > >> > >> >> - Show quoted text - > >> > >> > -- > >> > >> -- > >> ( > >> ) > >> |_D Allan > >> > >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > >> > >> I am a Natural Airgunner - > >> > >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text - > >> > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > --
