I think realistically globalization is revering to the access to everything world wide Allan
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > But what does the term "globalization" mean? It is an abstract term. > (Sort of like Alexander's "empire" at his death- to be defined by the > strongest?) > > > > On Nov 17, 4:18 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> I agree with you Saris are very beautiful and believe me that can get >> into the pricey range. Her wedding saris was well over 30,000 Euro and >> her mothers was just as bad.. was never told the exact price.. but >> it was out of the finest silk.. >> >> There are benefits to globalization ,, unfortunately those benefits >> are easily destroyed by those people and companies that are extremely >> selfish and uncaring... Greedy is to soft a word for their >> activities.. >> Allan >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:16 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> > A great question- what is it? Maybe it is what the major powers/ >> > economies tell us it is. Facts betray the huge inequities among the >> > nations/humanity. I would hope we don't lose some of our differences >> > and adopt one style and language. Saris are my favorite to watch and >> > think Indian and Asian women beat out Americans- the men aren't bad >> > either. Remember when we were all so separated and the "other" seemed >> > to look the same- a kind of blindness, I guess. >> >> > On Nov 15, 8:47 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> The big question is what is globalising. In part this is stuff we >> >> don't want. We are still haunted by superstition, sexism and >> >> imperialism. I'd like to see more of our economies about building >> >> safe communities and see foreign policies and our limited vision of >> >> 'efficiency' as the major bars to this. Disease is likely >> >> globalising, the ability to make WMDs and take part in manufacturing >> >> for war. >> >> >> On 15 Nov, 23:34, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > I would substitute ignorance for indifference. >> >> >> > On Nov 15, 10:00 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > Untill nationalisn has distinctive meaning, political and cultural, >> >> > > and >> >> > > economic, free movement of people can only be a pipe dream. >> >> >> > > And the "meaning," it must be remembered, is an emotional - mental >> >> > > thing... >> >> > > not merely intellectual. That's how phenomenal dimensions of any thing >> >> > > extends ... from indifference to emotional values, covering almost >> >> > > everything existential in society, politics and economics ... and to >> >> > > intellectual conviction, which is singularly absent in everything >> >> > > experiential that individuals bring into their attitudes and everyday >> >> > > decision-making at their present level evolution. >> >> >> > > One of the most intellectual calls was issued by Marx. No one could >> >> > > stand >> >> > > up to its rigour ... not the champions and subscribers, not the staus >> >> > > quoist rest of the world. Capitalism stays, because it factors in our >> >> > > emotional drives, not because it is most just and fair to the weakest >> >> > > in >> >> > > our midst ! >> >> >> > > Au revoir ... >> >> >> > > On Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:15:49 PM UTC+5:30, Lee Douglas wrote: >> >> >> > > > Meh! As you know I'm all for freedom of movement, live where you >> >> > > > like, if >> >> > > > much of India wish to migrate to The USA and settle in the Mid West >> >> > > > then go >> >> > > > to it. However with around only 3-5% of Earth's land mass >> >> > > > populated and >> >> > > > with an increasing amount of that population living in urban >> >> > > > environments I >> >> > > > daresay that India has much land of it's own in which it's >> >> > > > residents can >> >> > > > settle. Even when much of the land is gone, we are in fact making >> >> > > > strides >> >> > > > for sea based habitat. >> >> >> > > > Over population is a concern, much, much more for reasons of food >> >> > > > and energy production though than any reasons of not enough land >> >> > > > mass. >> >> >> > > > On Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:15:16 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >> >> >> > > >> Okay there is large sections of farm land in the Mid west maybe we >> >> > > >> can help the people of India resettle into that area..?? >> >> > > >> Allan >> >> >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> >> >> > > >> wrote: >> >> > > >> > Umm myself I can't see globalisation as anything but a good >> >> > > >> > thing. The >> >> > > >> > sooner we find that our cultural differences do not matter and >> >> > > >> > we learn >> >> > > >> to >> >> > > >> > judge the individual(as opposed to the group) the better as far >> >> > > >> > as I'm >> >> > > >> > concerned. Ultimately it will take global working together to >> >> > > >> > sort out >> >> > > >> the >> >> > > >> > worlds ills. >> >> >> > > >> > Overpopulation is a concern, but to too much of one at this >> >> > > >> > moment in >> >> > > >> time, >> >> > > >> > there are huge tracts of land still to be settled. >> >> >> > > >> > On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:22:17 UTC, archytas wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> One of the Faust stories more or less predicts the mechanism >> >> > > >> >> for the >> >> > > >> >> rise of Nazi Germany including the funding. >> >> >> > > >> >> On 13 Nov, 19:33, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > Wetlands are very important. The recovery work here was done >> >> > > >> centuries >> >> > > >> >> > ago.. and here we are very eco awe. >> >> > > >> >> > Allan >> >> >> > > >> >> > Matrix ** th3 beginning light >> >> > > >> >> > On Nov 13, 2012 2:03 PM, "rigsy03" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> > > By coincidence of a former discussion, Faust was draining a >> >> > > >> >> > > swamp >> >> > > >> as >> >> > > >> >> > > part of his spiritual rehab.//Another subject, however, >> >> > > >> >> > > would be >> >> > > >> the >> >> > > >> >> > > wetlands and their role in the ecology. >> >> >> > > >> >> > > On Nov 12, 6:11 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > The Dutch are crazy a and very adept at working with the >> >> > > >> >> > > > sea.. >> >> > > >> and >> >> > > >> >> > > > yes >> >> > > >> >> > > > it cost massive supplying its own power amounts of >> >> > > >> >> > > > money.. but >> >> > > >> >> > > > land >> >> > > >> >> > > > recovery is and can be very beneficial to the society. >> >> > > >> >> > > > We have >> >> > > >> to >> >> > > >> >> > > > protect our dunes to protect our country.. there is very >> >> > > >> >> > > > little >> >> > > >> sea >> >> > > >> >> > > > front property unlike both the east ans west coasts of >> >> > > >> >> > > > the US.. >> >> > > >> >> > > > where the coast is used mainly for private residences >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > The dutch have been using green houses for years long >> >> > > >> >> > > > before >> >> > > >> >> > > > Israel,, >> >> > > >> >> > > > the concept of vertical greenhouses id one for producing >> >> > > >> produce in >> >> > > >> >> > > > areas where it is needed like high density cities where >> >> > > >> >> > > > space is >> >> > > >> at >> >> > > >> >> > > > a >> >> > > >> >> > > > premium and population is at its maximum.. trying to >> >> > > >> >> > > > bring down >> >> > > >> the >> >> > > >> >> > > > cost of food.. and it is based on hydroponics and >> >> > > >> >> > > > objectively >> >> > > >> to be >> >> > > >> >> > > > self sufficient power wise.. the idea is not >> >> > > >> >> > > > particularly cheap >> >> > > >> but >> >> > > >> >> > > > as for the benefit of society is extremely valuable. >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > Some ideas need to be looked at in relationship to self. >> >> > > >> >> > > > Allan >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:59 AM, rigsy03 >> >> > > >> >> > > > <[email protected]> >> >> > > >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > > Israel has been very successful with greenhouse >> >> > > >> >> > > > > agriculture. A >> >> > > >> >> > > > > nearby >> >> > > >> >> > > > > restaurant contracted with local homeowners to grow >> >> > > >> >> > > > > some fresh >> >> > > >> >> > > > > produce >> >> > > >> >> > > > > which might catch on. I consider the labor and high >> >> > > >> >> > > > > water >> >> > > >> usage a >> >> > > >> >> > > > > negative, however. >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > On Nov 11, 5:23 am, Allan H <[email protected]> >> >> > > >> >> > > > > wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> I don't think that will work,, I think your solution >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> would >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> result in >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> wide spread famine world wide though the chemical >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> farmers >> >> > > >> are >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> not the >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> best solution they are not the worst either from >> >> > > >> supermarkets >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> to >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> farmers markets would again result in wide spread >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> hunger and >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> famine.. >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> corporations have the ability to preserve food and >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> spread it >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> trough >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> out the world where it is needed.. one of the >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> problems is >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> distribution .. and production.. at one time I owned >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> approximately >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> 200 hectors of land could grow wheat on some of it >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> and grass >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> that was >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> about it.. the other was so let me put it my best >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> crops were >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> rocks.. >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Dad and I built a house out of them.. >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Using today's technology if we created a vertical >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> green house >> >> > > >> (my >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> dad >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> and I discussed it some 40 - 45 years ago) of creating >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> a >> >> > > >> vertical >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> green house.. My father's knowledge was the most >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> advance in >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> hydroponics there still was a lot lacking and he >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> continued >> >> > > >> to do >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> research.. >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> But Andrew instead of using all of our land to maybe >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> poorly >> >> > > >> feed >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> 50.. >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> with today's technology using a vertical green house >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> we could >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> easily >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> feed 50,000 people in and ecologically friendly manner >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> ,, >> >> > > >> that >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> would >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> include providing protein other than vegetables. >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Stepping backwards is not a solution. >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> Allan >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, andrew vecsey < >> >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > The solution to all this mess is to abandon the >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > misled >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > scientists, >> >> > > >> >> > > the >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > harmful engineers and the speculating marketeers and >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > to >> >> > > >> return >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > to >> >> > > >> >> > > nature and >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > organic farming embodying ecological principles that >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > are >> >> > > >> >> > > sustainable and >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > have been sustained for billions of years. Return >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > farms >> >> > > >> from >> >> > > >> >> > > corporate >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > chemical farmers with their monocultures back to >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > family run >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > farms. >> >> > > >> >> > > Turn the >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > super markets back into farmer markets. The game >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > that >> >> > > >> values >> >> > > >> >> > > profits higher >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > than democracy, human rights and environmental >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > protection >> >> > > >> must >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > be >> >> > > >> >> > > abandoned >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > in order to survive. >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > On Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:57:20 AM UTC+1, Allan >> >> > > >> Heretic >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> > wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> There has been fears of over population for >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> centuries >> >> > > >> now.. >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> you >> >> > > >> >> > > have >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> only pointed to problems that are already well >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> know. At >> >> > > >> the >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> same >> >> > > >> >> > > time >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> I do not read any possible soutions. >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> How are the problems solved realistically or not >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> realistic >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> manner.. >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> you never know where the solution comes from. >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> Allan >> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM, andrew vecsey < >> >> > > >> >> > > [email protected]> >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Just as nature abhors a vacuum, tearing down >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > anything >> >> > > >> too >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > big, >> >> > > >> >> > > too high, >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > and >> >> >> ... >> >> >> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > -- >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> |_D Allan >> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >> >> I am a Natural Airgunner - >> >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > > > -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. 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