With drugs and mass media they control our desires and with drugs and schools they control our thinking. The only simple solution I can think of is not to play their game. Just refuse to buy what they offer to sell. .
On Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:47:11 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > > globalization can be very beneficial and granted there are many self > centered individuals and corporations that have that have little > concern for others or our world.. but one thing that is coming out of > it they can not control what people thing and desire their world to > be.. Little by little I see people reclaiming the dreams of a better > world. > Oh well what can you expect from an old hippie > Allan > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 7:43 PM, archytas <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Andrew is obviously right when one considers where our wealth is > > ending-up. This group is broadly parochial, white and barely > > understands what it excludes and how. We are reliant on centralised > > technology that is soon to force us to a format we don't want. > > Rigsy's question is about right. Previous globalisation was > > colonising and I suspect most of what we are witnessing now is in that > > model. It would be good to make the move in emphasis Molly suggests, > > but the signs in the underlying business model indicate the opposite > > to me - currently remaining in advertising and making a killing in > > market share. There is another (dated) form of globalisation in the > > phrase 'workers of the world unite' and it must be clear this has been > > resisted by the powerful other than in their own 'guilds'. My list on > > what globalisation is would be long and rather vague - including > > teaching foreign students with bare English textbook answers I kn ow > > to be rot. James Bond has globalised but not decent water, food and > > housing for all - let alone freedom from the kind of idiots on all > > sides who keep such stuff as the Arab-Israeli conflict going. > > > > We need realistic optimism - but this means embracing really bad news > > on climate (worse than we think) and history (much worse than we > > think) in order to see how we get some decent stuff done amongst the > > enemies of open society. Globalisation is getting very real in the > > sense of telepresence (I could be operated on in Bolton by a surgeon > > in Madras) and other varieties of the embodiment of knowledge that > > will allow remote and even home manufacturing. > > > > Postmodernism (which I regard as the move to modernism we have never > > had) is bringing about a legitimation crisis. I am broadly (but not > > completely) free of the religious dross taught in youth and chronic > > copy-teachers who told me Julius Caesar invaded Britain in 53AD and > > that humans have 24 pairs of chromosomes like other apes. To discover > > the extent of ideological dross in my education I travelled. The > > Internet's supposedly global reach does not even compare. How could > > anything be more parochial that Faceflop and Twatter? What would be > > want to globalise - does anyone ever ask us? How about freedom from > > work as means of income? > > > > On 18 Nov, 14:11, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I disagree, Andrew, and take a view more like Alan's. Globalization > >> occurs when more folks operate from a world-centric life view (not ego- > >> centric or ethno-centric), more countries are trading goods and > >> services, and more folks have access to goods and services from other > >> countries. This group is comprised of folks from many different parts > >> of the world. A good example. > >> > >> On Nov 18, 4:09 am, andrew vecsey <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Globalization is reverting to the ownership and control of everything > world > >> > wide by the few. That is the danger of it all. > >> > >> > On Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:41:31 PM UTC+1, Allan Heretic wrote: > >> > >> > > I think realistically globalization is revering to the access to > >> > > everything world wide > >> > > Allan > >> > >> > > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:19 PM, rigsy03 > >> > > <[email protected]<javascript:>> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > But what does the term "globalization" mean? It is an abstract > term. > >> > > > (Sort of like Alexander's "empire" at his death- to be defined by > the > >> > > > strongest?) > >> > >> > > > On Nov 17, 4:18 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> I agree with you Saris are very beautiful and believe me that > can get > >> > > >> into the pricey range. Her wedding saris was well over 30,000 > Euro and > >> > > >> her mothers was just as bad.. was never told the exact price.. > but > >> > > >> it was out of the finest silk.. > >> > >> > > >> There are benefits to globalization ,, unfortunately those > benefits > >> > > >> are easily destroyed by those people and companies that are > extremely > >> > > >> selfish and uncaring... Greedy is to soft a word for their > >> > > >> activities.. > >> > > >> Allan > >> > >> > > >> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:16 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > >> > A great question- what is it? Maybe it is what the major > powers/ > >> > > >> > economies tell us it is. Facts betray the huge inequities > among the > >> > > >> > nations/humanity. I would hope we don't lose some of our > differences > >> > > >> > and adopt one style and language. Saris are my favorite to > watch and > >> > > >> > think Indian and Asian women beat out Americans- the men > aren't bad > >> > > >> > either. Remember when we were all so separated and the "other" > seemed > >> > > >> > to look the same- a kind of blindness, I guess. > >> > >> > > >> > On Nov 15, 8:47 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> The big question is what is globalising. In part this is > stuff we > >> > > >> >> don't want. We are still haunted by superstition, sexism and > >> > > >> >> imperialism. I'd like to see more of our economies about > building > >> > > >> >> safe communities and see foreign policies and our limited > vision of > >> > > >> >> 'efficiency' as the major bars to this. Disease is likely > >> > > >> >> globalising, the ability to make WMDs and take part in > manufacturing > >> > > >> >> for war. > >> > >> > > >> >> On 15 Nov, 23:34, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> > I would substitute ignorance for indifference. > >> > >> > > >> >> > On Nov 15, 10:00 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> > > Untill nationalisn has distinctive meaning, political and > >> > > cultural, and > >> > > >> >> > > economic, free movement of people can only be a pipe > dream. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > And the "meaning," it must be remembered, is an emotional > - > >> > > mental thing... > >> > > >> >> > > not merely intellectual. That's how phenomenal dimensions > of any > >> > > thing > >> > > >> >> > > extends ... from indifference to emotional values, > covering > >> > > almost > >> > > >> >> > > everything existential in society, politics and economics > ... > >> > > and to > >> > > >> >> > > intellectual conviction, which is singularly absent in > >> > > everything > >> > > >> >> > > experiential that individuals bring into their attitudes > and > >> > > everyday > >> > > >> >> > > decision-making at their present level evolution. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > One of the most intellectual calls was issued by Marx. No > one > >> > > could stand > >> > > >> >> > > up to its rigour ... not the champions and subscribers, > not the > >> > > staus > >> > > >> >> > > quoist rest of the world. Capitalism stays, because it > factors > >> > > in our > >> > > >> >> > > emotional drives, not because it is most just and fair to > the > >> > > weakest in > >> > > >> >> > > our midst ! > >> > >> > > >> >> > > Au revoir ... > >> > >> > > >> >> > > On Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:15:49 PM UTC+5:30, Lee > Douglas > >> > > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > Meh! As you know I'm all for freedom of movement, live > where > >> > > you like, if > >> > > >> >> > > > much of India wish to migrate to The USA and settle in > the Mid > >> > > West then go > >> > > >> >> > > > to it. However with around only 3-5% of Earth's land > mass > >> > > populated and > >> > > >> >> > > > with an increasing amount of that population living in > urban > >> > > environments I > >> > > >> >> > > > daresay that India has much land of it's own in which > it's > >> > > residents can > >> > > >> >> > > > settle. Even when much of the land is gone, we are in > fact > >> > > making strides > >> > > >> >> > > > for sea based habitat. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > Over population is a concern, much, much more for > reasons of > >> > > food > >> > > >> >> > > > and energy production though than any reasons of not > enough > >> > > land mass. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > > On Thursday, 15 November 2012 14:15:16 UTC, Allan > Heretic > >> > > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> Okay there is large sections of farm land in the Mid > west > >> > > maybe we > >> > > >> >> > > >> can help the people of India resettle into that > area..?? > >> > > >> >> > > >> Allan > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Lee Douglas < > >> > > [email protected]> > >> > > >> >> > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > >> > Umm myself I can't see globalisation as anything but > a good > >> > > thing. The > >> > > >> >> > > >> > sooner we find that our cultural differences do not > matter > >> > > and we learn > >> > > >> >> > > >> to > >> > > >> >> > > >> > judge the individual(as opposed to the group) the > better as > >> > > far as I'm > >> > > >> >> > > >> > concerned. Ultimately it will take global working > together > >> > > to sort out > >> > > >> >> > > >> the > >> > > >> >> > > >> > worlds ills. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > Overpopulation is a concern, but to too much of one > at this > >> > > moment in > >> > > >> >> > > >> time, > >> > > >> >> > > >> > there are huge tracts of land still to be settled. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> > On Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:22:17 UTC, archytas > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> One of the Faust stories more or less predicts the > >> > > mechanism for the > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> rise of Nazi Germany including the funding. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On 13 Nov, 19:33, Allan H <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Wetlands are very important. The recovery work > here was > >> > > done > >> > > >> >> > > >> centuries > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ago.. and here we are very eco awe. > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Allan > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Matrix ** th3 beginning light > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Nov 13, 2012 2:03 PM, "rigsy03" < > [email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > By coincidence of a former discussion, Faust > was > >> > > draining a swamp > >> > > >> >> > > >> as > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > part of his spiritual rehab.//Another subject, > >> > > however, would be > >> > > >> >> > > >> the > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > wetlands and their role in the ecology. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > On Nov 12, 6:11 am, Allan H < > [email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > The Dutch are crazy a and very adept at > working with > >> > > the sea.. > >> > > >> >> > > >> and > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > yes > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > it cost massive supplying its own power > amounts of > >> > > money.. but > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > land > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > recovery is and can be very beneficial to the > >> > > society. We have > >> > > >> >> > > >> to > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > protect our dunes to protect our country.. > there is > >> > > very little > >> > > >> >> > > >> sea > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > front property unlike both the east ans west > coasts > >> > > of the US.. > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > where the coast is used mainly for private > >> > > residences > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > The dutch have been using green houses for > years > >> > > long before > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Israel,, > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > the concept of vertical greenhouses id one > for > >> > > producing > >> > > >> >> > > >> produce in > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > areas where it is needed like high density > cities > >> > > where space is > >> > > >> >> > > >> at > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > a > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > premium and population is at its maximum.. > trying > >> > > to bring down > >> > > >> >> > > >> the > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > cost of food.. and it is based on > hydroponics and > >> > > objectively > >> > > >> >> > > >> to be > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > self sufficient power wise.. the idea is not > >> > > particularly cheap > >> > > >> >> > > >> but > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > as for the benefit of society is extremely > valuable. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Some ideas need to be looked at in > relationship to > >> > > self. > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > Allan > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:59 AM, rigsy03 < > >> > > [email protected]> > >> > > >> >> > > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > Israel has been very successful with > greenhouse > >> > > agriculture. A > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > nearby > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > restaurant contracted with local homeowners > to > >> > > grow some fresh > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > produce > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > which might catch on. I consider the labor > and > >> > > high water > >> > > >> >> > > >> usage a > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > negative, however. > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > On Nov 11, 5:23 am, Allan H < > [email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> I don't think that will work,, I think > your > >> > > solution would > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> result in > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> wide spread famine world wide though the > >> > > chemical farmers > >> > > >> >> > > >> are > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> not the > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> best solution they are not the worst > either > >> > > from > >> > > >> >> > > >> supermarkets > >> > >> ... > >> > >> read more ยป > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > ( > ) > |_D Allan > > Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. > > > I am a Natural Airgunner - > > Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. > --
