lol. It is that simple.. I was deeply involved in debit credit ongoing discussion when our teach a very nice swedish lady told us not to discuss to understand just do the exercises.. I made the comment under my breath that accounting was a mindless operation.. Our teacher heard me and replied. "You have that right. " Don't get into the discussions of why and how.. Just do the paperwork the system just works..
تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others -----Original Message----- From: gabbydott <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? Look down ... sorry, too fast Am Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2015 schrieb gabbydott : > If things are that simple I really understand how and why you down on on > people who worship the golden calf - instead of the bull. ;) > > Am Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2015 schrieb : > >> Tread softly Gabby, you can expect to be treated as you have treated >> others.. Sorry to disappoint you Gabby the debut/crediet system created in >> the someone used in the machine accounting you see today.. They just have >> given names to the slight of hand tricks.. >> >> Banking is a unique finacial environment. Normally it would be a boring >> uninteresting subject the then a name as a joke created interest. Found >> out that creating a legal bank is much easier than I ever imagined.. >> Just lacked the major bank connection need to do interbank banking.. >> Didn't realize at the time I had those needed connections also.. >> Talking with a childhood friend Vern asked me why I didn't sign the >> required paperwork.. I am still surprised by friends I made while being a >> yatch bum.. (",) >> >> >> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 2:43 PM >> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? >> >> Barky-barky Allan tells our red-penned Neil that he has it right. Very >> cute. Gain robber control to change the system from within, wow, what a >> fresh idea! Still a way to go to machine transaction time, though. Sigh. >> >> Am Mittwoch, 18. Februar 2015 schrieb : >> >>> You have that right. Banksters is slight of hand. Or is that slight of >>> money? >>> The actual banking system of debit and credit was developed by a monk >>> in the middle ages. That was how accounting was taught years ago.. Today >>> accounting is taught as three card montie.. Shuffle cloud the issue >>> claiming clarity of sight. >>> Banksters do not want clarity as it does not serve their greed and >>> control. >>> If you want to change the system change it from within.. You have to >>> create the illusion for banksters that they are in control.. Bitcoin is >>> an outside force giving banksters an point of attack.. >>> If you want change the current banking system make the banksters attack >>> themselves by creating a banking system within their system.. Why not >>> control how you you use the system. You have to remember that the rudder >>> controls and turns the ship. >>> My question is why not be the rubber in yourbanking affairs. >>> >>> >>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? >>> >>> I think the actual expertise is phony. They have built up a big control >>> fraud around very little. In the past we have been dominated by such as >>> water-engineers with basic skills hidden by their 'access' to the >>> water-gods. The financiers are similar. >>> >>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 10:17:59 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>> >>>> Are these alternative currency really a challenge to the banksters? >>>> If you want to really challenge banksters expertise use it to your >>>> advantage by using the onion effect a system within a system.. The onion >>>> has been used for generations under various names.. >>>> If you are forced to swim across a flooded you do not survive by >>>> swimming against the current. >>>> >>>> >>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:07 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? >>>> >>>> There have been many other alternative currencies, including drugs and >>>> spices. The interesting thing is not Bitcoin itself (or the 80+ other >>>> versions), but the challenge to claims of bank expertise and various >>>> 'rents' in the economic system, oincluding those imposed by 'professionals' >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 9:54:12 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> well can not imagine why it is interesting. >>>>> If it is security you want stay off the net and even then they still >>>>> have you.. To much info readily available. But you know that.. >>>>> Onions have great security .. So what makes it interesting? >>>>> >>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:23 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? >>>>> >>>>> In that sense Allan, iy was just another bubble. This is not why it >>>>> is interesting. >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 9:15:42 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We'll, if that is how you want to pay your bills.. Have fun, l >>>>>> recall when Andrew became excited about bitcoin the said value was in the >>>>>> 1000 € = 1 bitcoin.. Just looked up the value it is 211 € .. Let me >>>>>> help >>>>>> you pay your bills you give me 1000 euro and in a few days I will give >>>>>> you >>>>>> 211 € back.. Good deal right? When I first looked into bitcoin (when >>>>>> it >>>>>> first came out) you could buy 2 for less than a Euro.. >>>>>> My question really is how many euro did Andrew lose.. They would not >>>>>> let me create a small wallet so I cold sell my jewelry.. >>>>>> Now I was not allowed to create a wallet, found out later it was >>>>>> due to questionable activities. But if you like looking at short term.. >>>>>> Have fun. And I am called a zombie.. lol >>>>>> >>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: gabbydott <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: minds-eye <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 9:51 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's make this a third person case and say people need money. They >>>>>> need money pay their bills. Please don't be so hard on them, dear Allan. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-02-17 21:15 GMT+01:00 <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you worship money.... >>>>>>> My memory is saying it is not worth anything for data storage and >>>>>>> reterival and that is what computers are about.. In 1977 I walked away >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> programming.. >>>>>>> Can be fun if and that is a big if.. >>>>>>> Do you like long hours and extreme focus and the edge of sanity. >>>>>>> The research projects were interesting.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: archytas <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 8:31 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It isn't that bleak Allan. Andrew has the basic description right. >>>>>>> People generally refuse to see the bigger picture these developments are >>>>>>> exposing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 6:34:02 PM UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dream on Andrew, sorry and I already your are going to say I am full >>>>>>> of shit,, by it is okay.. all own source is good for is ease in >>>>>>> hacking.. >>>>>>> I will watch people do the delusional twisters. >>>>>>> A few people will always maintain machine language you are lucky >>>>>>> because they are not interested in delusional dead.. beware through he >>>>>>> people who will employ them are rue control freaks. The safety net is >>>>>>> within numbers and time, the segmentation ability is where the secret >>>>>>> lies.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> تجنب. القتل والاغتصاب واستعباد الآخرين >>>>>>> Avoid; murder, rape and enslavement of others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: andrew vecsey <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 5:57 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Mind's Eye Re: What could the internet be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can get a better explanation of the blockchain from the internet >>>>>>> than I can give you. But as I like to simplify complicated things, I >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> give it a try. The blockchain is a public ledger that is kept by >>>>>>> volunteers. The volunteers document transactions made by users.The >>>>>>> ledger >>>>>>> is verifyied by consensus of the volunteers. The the only way that >>>>>>> ledger >>>>>>> can be falsified is that 51% of the volunteers that maintain the ledger >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> have to agree to a falsified version of the ledger. The users broadcast >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> transaction they want to include in that ledger, and the volunteers >>>>>>> transcribe that transactions in that ledger. There is no centralized >>>>>>> point >>>>>>> of control, as the ledger is distributed by the volunteers. The >>>>>>> transactions can be Bitcoins, a cryptocurrency that apparently can not >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> falsified due to the encryption it uses, or any other transactions, like >>>>>>> ownership of assets, or contracts. The blockchain is refereed to as a >>>>>>> "trust-less system" in that you do not have to trust a centralized >>>>>>> authority to maintain that ledger, as there are none. The protocol that >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> used for the blockchain is an open source program that prevents anyone >>>>>>> compromising that protocol without everyone else knowing about any >>>>>>> changes >>>>>>> that might compromise it. The entire system is of course very >>>>>>> complicated. >>>>>>> The main aspects that allow such a system to be implemented is the >>>>>>> mathematics of cryptology, the internet, the distributed network of >>>>>>> computers, and geeks that maintain that network not because they want to >>>>>>> hack or control it, but because they want to keep it honest. I hope that >>>>>>> helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 3:56:22 PM UTC+1, Gabby wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am interested in empowerment tools. What is the blockchain >>>>>>> technology, Andrew? First what it is and then what is does, okay? >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2015 schrieb andrew vecsey : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been thinking about your post Niel. >>>>>>> The internet connects people via their computers. That is very >>>>>>> empowering. especially to the owners of centralized computers that offer >>>>>>> porn, entertainment, commerce and information. It is however the >>>>>>> decentralized form of the internet that is truly empowering, enabling >>>>>>> people globally to freely communicate and share information without the >>>>>>> control of centralized powers. The blockchain technology is the most >>>>>>> empowering. It frees people to make money transactions without banks, >>>>>>> legal >>>>>>> transactions without lawyers, and allows people to vote and voice their >>>>>>> opinions without politicians. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 3:41:22 PM UTC+1, archytas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most of my use of the internet concerns researching pretty dire >>>>>>> academic papers and books through still largely restricted access. It's >>>>>>> much cheaper than buying the stuff directly, particularly as 99% of what >>>>>>> shows up is dross. I've played with the rest to find out what is there. >>>>>>> Search is a big plus compared with rooting through stuff in a university >>>>>>> library. Now, much google search just turns up dross I don't want. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In an academic project we are interested in what is on the net >>>>>>> generally - in terms of how much of general consciousness this >>>>>>> represents. >>>>>>> Rational discussion is a tiny part of what is on the net. Techies >>>>>>> spend a >>>>>>> lot of time looking for cut and paste code and ways we might automate >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> sweep. There is a background idea that we are looking for new ways to >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> 'expert knowledge' on the metaphor of people not being able to build >>>>>>> cars >>>>>>> but able to drive them with a bit of training. My own bad is 'big >>>>>>> data' as >>>>>>> a new language that would bring a different speed to human discourse and >>>>>>> potentially control of the means of production. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lately, I'm interested in the lack of a business model for anything >>>>>>> except trash. I can join a site where a couple of young women will >>>>>>> send me >>>>>>> off-the-peg clothes on approval to ensure my sartorial elegance, though >>>>>>> don't. There are plenty of interesting Moochs, but I don't have time. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> bank n line and have the joy of never seeing a bank clerk. Shopping can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> done in the same manner as shops don't interest me at all. My insurance >>>>>>> renewals are always 30% higher than I can get the same cover for via >>>>>>> one of >>>>>>> the broker sites on the day. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do electronic teaching. So I'm no longer racked by whatever >>>>>>> diseases undergraduate classes try to kill me with. And I never see a >>>>>>> boss >>>>>>> or have to attend a useless staff meeting, or have my classes flooded as >>>>>>> the students discover I'm an easier touch and tell jokes. The work is >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> or less pre-prepared and my timetable is not changed at ridiculous short >>>>>>> notice and I don't have to take time to teach kids from other classes, >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> my door because they can't get anywhere with the guy supposed to help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can watch television and films through illegal sites, but would >>>>>>> really prefer to pay for channels where I could select from much wider >>>>>>> material without packaging. The current business model encourages >>>>>>> loads of >>>>>>> channels with the same (usually old) dross, or stuff like Netflix with >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> 1% I'd want to see and don't want to pay to support. Sports channels >>>>>>> require me to pay for soccer I don't want. Tony has done more for me >>>>>>> in a >>>>>>> few minutes (neglecting his production time) than Sky Arts bores ever >>>>>>> could. We lack a business model of actual choice. With one, >>>>>>> insanestream >>>>>>> news and other entertainment, the crap science pornography of the BBC, >>>>>>> Discovery and so on, would be things of my past. In chronic business >>>>>>> terms, I wonder how they do market segmentation at all. I am sick of >>>>>>> Blue >>>>>>> Peter (kids programme here) presentation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One can imagine plenty of people like the best through this group >>>>>>> wanting something very different and something large enough not to be a >>>>>>> part of when time presses and so on. Uber, properly supervised against >>>>>>> racist drivers, could bring very radical change - I meet few who can >>>>>>> explain why - though we have not yet worked out that technology could >>>>>>> massively reduce what we currently call work and planet burning. In the >>>>>>> meantime we can't even set up a discussion group without Gabby (and >>>>>>> everyone really) worrying on the curtain shades. Give us a twirl then >>>>>>> girl, like one of those doxies Bruce Forsythe used to encourage. I can >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> something of a business model, starting with Chris' 'attractors'. The >>>>>>> eventual key is content for a sophisticated audience - remembering very >>>>>>> few >>>>>>> people do education without any kind of accreditation pay-off and the >>>>>>> means >>>>>>> to pay for organisation does not move easily from free. 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