I dont know about that. If Im a consumer, looking to build .NET apps on
MonoDroid, and I purchased MonoDroid last week, my expectation from the
site is that I am paying for a product which includes 1 year of updates.
If in fact, their is no-one to make such updates, nor is their "an
intent" to provide updates over the year, then that my friend is fraud.
So if they do not establish they HAVE intent, then in fact it would be
like me selling you my car, with a year free oil changes, but I have no
place to do the oil changes, i have no employees to do the oil changes,
i have no intention of ever giving you an oil change.
On 5/17/2011 3:09 PM, Justin Hansen wrote:
They have not killed the product yet. They just got rid of the team.
They haven't said they won't get a new team. Also, their product still
works.
They def haven't committed any fraud yet.
I'm just as angry as the rest of you, I am just pointing out that all
the conclusions that are being jumped to (that Attachment owes us
something or fraud) just aren't true yet. They say we are entitled to
any updates that come out for a year. The only way there is any fraud
related to that is if an update does come out that is denied to us.
They aren't guaranteeing that they will ever come out with an update.
The discount code works, no fraud there. The product has not been
officially killed for all we know they are hiring new people to take
the product in a new direction. I doubt that's the case and wouldn't
support them if they did, but since we can't prove any of this none of
the below statement is true at this point.
Justin Hansen
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:03 PM, NokNok Developer
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I dont know here, it would be to my thinking any company selling a
product claiming one year updates, and still providing the
DISCOUNT CODE for existing TOUCH USERS - AFTER LETTING GO OF
ENTIRE TEAM, AND KNOWINGLY KILLED THE PRODUCT - would be
constituted as consumer fraud...
Which all did occur...
On 5/17/2011 2:59 PM, Justin Hansen wrote:
I agree, I'm saying that Attachment has no obligation to us.
Justin Hansen
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Natalia Portillo
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
El 17/05/2011, a las 16:55, Justin Hansen escribió:
>From my standpoint if monotouch doesn't come with
guaranteed support why should they be obligated to do so?
Esspecially since we agreed that they don't in the contract.
I know that you can't have a contract that negates a law but
there is no law that says a company must provide user support.
That being said I'm from the U.S. so I can't speak to
anything outside this country. I just know my lawyer pointed
out that clause in 10 minutes and asked me about promised
support.
You still have the "one year of updates"
Justin Hansen
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Karl Heinz Brehme
Arredondo <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I spoke with a lawyer in brazil (where consumer rights
are one of the strongest) and he said that the above
term is absurd...
He said that a process can take really a long to court
decide, but can be a good pression. As I live in brasil,
if I make something with Novell, I will do here. So each
one must do, I think, on tis living country.
Karl
From: Justin Hansen <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 11:47:56 -0400
To: Karl Heinz Brehme Arredondo
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [MonoTouch] SPAM-LOW: Re: So..... what
happens now?
Out of curiosity does monotouch come with one year of
support or just one year of upgrades? See below:
MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT
Novell has no obligation to provide support or
maintenance unless You purchase an offering that
expressly includes support or maintenance services. If
You make such a purchase and no separate agreement
specifically applies to the support or maintenance
services, then the terms of this Agreement will govern
the provision of such support or maintenance services
(“Services“). For more information on Novell's current
support offerings, see http://www.novell.com/support.
I can't see where on the site it says anything about
guaranteed support.
Justin Hansen
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Karl Heinz Brehme
Arredondo <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Maybe that…
Karl
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