Ron, et al, Just to be clear on my contribution here ...
I've never contended that ideas and concepts came before "stuff" in any general sense. I'm still a physicalist - fundamentally only metaphysics precedes physics. Physics (physical stuff and processes generally) exists before any empiricism or intellect, etc. (The physical is the lowest level of static patterns.) I said "our idea of matter as material objects" does not precede our experience and conceptions of them. Ian Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
