Hi all

Suggest: the MOQ is on the current cutting edge of the 4th level.
The 4th level is still evolving/developing.

DM


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Knowledge as MOQ's intellect


> Hi Platt,
>
> Pirsig said the MOQ is an intellectual pattern and therefore part of the 
> fourth level and he never described a fifth level.
> I agree with him. I can't see the MOQ as part of a fifth level because a 
> fifth level would have to be categorically different from the fourth in 
> the way that a living being is different from an inanimate object or a 
> city is different from a living being or an essay is different from a 
> city. I don't see this sort of difference in kind between the MOQ and some 
> version of SOM. They are both still philosophies.
>
> Reagrds,
> Steve
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 10, 2007, at 05:53AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Quoting Steven Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>  Hi Platt and Bo,
>>>
>>> Are you two saying that the 4th level is SOM? If so, is the OQ a fifth 
>>> level?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Steve
>>
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I can't speak for Bo but I think the 4th level is SOM. The MOQ stands at 
>>the
>>lower end of the 5th or art level because values are closely associated 
>>with
>>aesthetics. To reflect that association, I think Pirsig chose the art form 
>>of
>>the novel to present his metaphysics.
>>
>>IMO,
>>Platt
>>
>>
>>
>>
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