OK Ron, So you are indeed saying it's more fundamental than axiomatic - we really do "know it" independent of the MoQ. (Sincerely BTW that is what I was trying to get Platt to say or deny in the line of questioning about his capital "T")
You may be right. I already think you are right. Bob almost certainly beleves it too. I'm sure most MoQists do, except .... But you can see why it's pointless to argue about proving or explaining it ? It's the angels on the head of the pin. Language always brings us up to the intellectual level again. I say, take a holiday(*), and become a neo-pragmatist - the water's lovely. (*) after William James Ian On 5/14/08, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting Ron, Arlo, > > This is leading us to the "immediate participation before (typically > objective)intellectualization" story (if we weren't already there), > but Ron, > > Why do you say it [the immediate response to Quality] "makes the MoQ > questionable as to being axiomatic this way" ? > Could you elaborate / explain that point ? Are you suggesting it is > even more fundamental in some way than simply axiomatic of the MoQ ? > (and hence the misundersanding with Bo in another thread) > > Ian > > Ron: > It's kinda a circular logic thing Ian, that's why I say > It is questionable, but because the response to Quality > Or the quality event or even the simple term Quality itself > Means this experience of being alive, is the fundamental > Shall we say, aspect? Idea? See, even the words I use imply > An intellectual quality to a pre-existent phenomena that > Already exists. > I think in this way the "proof" of MoQ is experience itself. > We do not have to assume it for we ARE it. > > Hope you get my meaning. > > This is a good topic. > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
