At 11:35 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote:
Ron:
The last post on this particular problem for today, I swear.
When Pirsig wrote:
*) LILA:
This problem of trying to describe value in terms of substance
has been the problem of a smaller container trying to contain a
larger one. Value is not a subspecies of substance.
Substance is a subspecies of value. When you reverse the
containment process and define substance in terms of value
the mystery disappears: substance is a "stable pattern of
inorganic values." The problem then disappears. The world of
objects and the world of values is unified.
He mistakenly gave the impression of a meta-objectivism. which contradicts
the statement of Value or Quality (ultimate reality) as being indefineable.
By stating that substance IS a "stable pattern of inorganic values"
He unwittingly alludes to a meta-objectivists view. When the remainder
of his Metaphysic states that substance is an intellectual pattern
ABOUT "stable patterns of inorganic values".
Ron,
To me "stable pattern of inorganic values" means inorganic SPoVs that
are very established culturally. I cannot think of SPoVs as anything
but conceptual. SPoVs are known (conceptual (value)), phenomenon is
direct experience (value) until a recognized pattern.
Marsha
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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a
reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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