>
> . so you could come
> > up with a bunch of different hypothetical situations that would coerce
> me,
> > but none of them would fit either and after a while we'd realize that you
> > are just playing games with your own fantasyland terrors that have
> nothing
> > to do with me so WHY SHOULD I BE INTERESTED???
> > More clear I hope?
>
> Nick:
> I call that excellent.  I think you, John, are somebody that knows what
> liberty is and
> you value life tremendously!!!
>
>    Might I ask, are you about peace, meaning, as long as nobody 'tries' to
> initiate physical coercion
> against you are you for the finer things in life that are good?



John the tardy replier:

Who isn't?

Well I suppose I should be gratified at your enthusiasm Nick.  But you are
still not making much sense.  My question to you was, explicitly and
fundamentally,  WHY SHOULD I BE INTERESTED???

That is, why should I be interested in your NAP?  It doesn't meet any need
of mine, it seems like a course on breathing to a guy who has been alive a
long time.  I don't coerce and feel impervious to same and thus it seems to
me, a simple recitation of your problems in a forum that last time I
checked, was not set up to solve Nick's problems.


>
> Nick:
> Nope cause the government forced you in seculsion.  You either pay up or
> the government
> forces you to go into hiding.  That's not free-will.  That's called being
> physically coerced
> away from civil society.  duh.  lol  You're funny.
>

Nick, please use a minute of objective logic.  I like seclusion.  I prefer
to be independent of Government control so I make choices that free me from
that control.  It's pretty simple.  And when I point this out to you, you
claim it is the govt MAKING me do what I myself feel is my own choice.  Can
you see that you are talking about YOUR mind and your choices and you are
implicating me with your thoughts?   My judgement tells me you are suffering
from the common narcissism of the times and cannot truly relate to others.

You're sad.


>
> John:
> > If I have to pay them?  I thought you said I did.  I do own property and
> as
> > a self-employed individual with more than a few kids, the govt ends up
> > paying me more than I pay them.
>
> Nick:
> Oh, so you steal from other people to live your life.  That's why you don't
> pay property
> or income tax.  You steal it from other people.  So you are a coercer in
> this scheme.  You
> don't have to pay cause you force other people to pay you - thief.
>

Aha.  The self-deluding circle is closed and complete.  Either I am a victim
or a perpetrator in your cosmology and since I have demonstrated I am not a
victim, I must be a perp.  Ok.  Fine.  I'm a thief.


 John:
> > My point was that you have an aggressive attitude. Baseball bats got
> nothing
> > to do with it.
>
> Nick:
> And?  So?  A baseball bat is a piece of wood.  I mean it's not difficult to
> realize that.
>
>
Ah but it is difficult to see oneself in the judgment cast on others.   You
sir, are an aggressive, coercive person and so you rail against the
aggressive coercion you "see" all around.   You see it because you choose
it.  You rail against it because it traps you.  The self-contained
narcissistic hell with the small soul beating it's little heart against the
walls.

Sad.

You remind me of a very funny scene from a movie I saw once, Monty Python,
the Meaning of Life - it goes like this.

A waiter.  A trim and fastidious little french waiter looks into the camera
and proclaims,"Hey, you want to know the meaning of life?  Follow me."

And so we (the camera) follow him out the doors of the restaurant, down the
street and out of the city, this dapper little french waiter leading us to
the countryside and a house sitting by itself.  He stands and proclaims,
"This is the house where I was born, and when I was just a little boy, my
mama said to me, Try and do some good for everyone you meet."  He pauses
meaningfully, looks soulfully into the camera and puffs himself up...

" And so...  I became ... a waiter!"

"Well, I know it's not much a of philosophy....  Who are you to judge me and
MY life?   Who cares what you think anyway?  Who the fuck do you think you
are?  Who gives a fuck what you think?  Fuck you!"

He slams down his towel and stomps away.


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