Greetings,

Definition, connotation and history are intricately involved with patterning, 
and since the definition, connotation and history of the God-pattern is 
associated with  "an evil social suppression of intellectual and Dynamic 
freedom" it should be dropped.  Quality as presented in the Moq is a much 
better (untainted) label.  


Marsha




On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote:

> hiya,
> 
> "In the third stage, that of 'absolute religion', the selfconscious subject 
> and its object, Nature, are seen as distinct yet essentially related, and at 
> the same time as grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is conceived 'as the 
> Being who is at once the source, the sustaining power, and the end of our 
> spiritual lives'. This does not mean, however, that the idea of God is 
> completely indeterminate, so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism of 
> Herbert Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject and object, and the 
> more we understand the spiritual life of humanity on the one hand and the 
> world of Nature on the other, so much the more do we learn about God who is 
> 'the ultimate unity of our life and of the life of the world'      <<<<<The 
> MOQ would add a fourth stage where the term “God” is completely dropped as a 
> relic of an evil social suppression of intellectual and Dynamic freedom.   
> The MOQ is not just atheistic in this regard.  It is
> anti-theistic. >>>>>"" 
> 
> 
> gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the concept remains? ie there is an 
> ultimate unity of our life and the world but we don't call it god we call it 
> quality or dynamic quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some other word?
> 
> i am confused - seems like a cop out to me...what difference what we call it? 
> maybe that's why the indians have hundreds of names for it....
> 
> 
> 
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