so where does censorship fit into the scheme of things? i thought it would have been a social pattern no? so by eliminating the g.o.d. word (god i hope he didn't hear me - i might get oppressed) everything is better eh? i say 'why stop there!?"....let's ban 'pain' and 'disgruntled' and 'disaffected' and 'unhappy' .... hey!!!!!! i think i am onto something
i hate to break it to you guys folks but i fear our heads have become wedged well and truly up our asses bye --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <[email protected]> wrote: > From: gav <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality > To: [email protected] > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:01 PM > > should we drop 'truth', 'the market', 'freedom', 'america' > as well then > > it's a fucking word > > meaning is contextual > > jesus i am so over this shit > > > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, MarshaV <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: MarshaV <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality > > To: [email protected] > > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 1:25 PM > > Greetings, > > > > Definition, connotation and history are intricately > > involved with patterning, and since the definition, > > connotation and history of the God-pattern is > associated > > with "an evil social suppression of intellectual > and > > Dynamic freedom" it should be dropped. Quality as > > presented in the Moq is a much better (untainted) > > label. > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote: > > > > > hiya, > > > > > > "In the third stage, that of 'absolute religion', > the > > selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are seen > as > > distinct yet essentially related, and at the same time > as > > grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is conceived > 'as the > > Being who is at once the source, the sustaining power, > and > > the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not mean, > > however, that the idea of God is completely > indeterminate, > > so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism of > Herbert > > Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject and > > object, and the more we understand the spiritual life > of > > humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature on > the > > other, so much the more do we learn about God who is > 'the > > ultimate unity of our life and of the life of the > > world' <<<<<The MOQ would > > add a fourth stage where the term “God” is > completely > > dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression of > > intellectual and Dynamic freedom. The MOQ > > is not just atheistic in this regard. It is > > > anti-theistic. >>>>>"" > > > > > > > > > gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the > concept > > remains? ie there is an ultimate unity of our life and > the > > world but we don't call it god we call it quality or > dynamic > > quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some other > word? > > > > > > i am confused - seems like a cop out to > me...what > > difference what we call it? maybe that's why the > indians > > have hundreds of names for it.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
