"In the third stage, that of 'absolute religion', the selfconscious subject and
its object, Nature, are seen as distinct yet essentially related, and at the
same time as grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is conceived 'as the Being
who is at once the source, the sustaining power, and the end of our spiritual
lives'. This does not mean, however, that the idea of God is completely
indeterminate, so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism of Herbert
Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject and object, and the more we
understand the spiritual life of humanity on the one hand and the world of
Nature on the other, so much the more do we learn about God who is 'the
ultimate unity of our life and of the life of the world' <<<<<The MOQ
would add a fourth stage where the term “God” is completely dropped as a relic
of an evil social suppression of intellectual and Dynamic freedom. The MOQ is
not just atheistic in this regard. It is anti-theistic. >>>>>""
gav said:
...i am confused - seems like a cop out to me...what difference what we call
it? maybe that's why the indians have hundreds of names for it....
dmb says:
I think Pirsig is playing along with the Hegelian dialectic and mocking it the
same time. As they tell it, the history of the world is sort of the unfolding
of God's mind. Each stage of development brings the whole thing closer to a
full realization of God. You know, in stage one God is objective. In stage two
he is subjective. In stage three subject and object are seen as related and
grounded in the same reality and in stage four, Pirsig says, "the term 'God' is
completely dropped as a relic". He's not just asserting intellectual and
Dynamic freedom from evil social suppression, he's also mocking the whole
premise of Hegelian dialectics, subverting it by its own "logic".
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