Hey, don't apologize gav, It was eloquent phrasing, philosophically valid AND I laughed my ass off.
A three-fer! Woo hoo! I'm tellin' ya. What we need around here is a good solid revival of Flying Spaghetti Monsterism. John the preacher On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:56 PM, gav <[email protected]> wrote: > apologies marsha for my petulance - just pissed off wasting time quibbling > over definitions and other pedantry... > > > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: gav <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality > > To: [email protected] > > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:17 PM > > so where does censorship fit into the > > scheme of things? i thought it would have been a social > > pattern no? so by eliminating the g.o.d. word (god i hope he > > didn't hear me - i might get oppressed) everything is better > > eh? i say 'why stop there!?"....let's ban 'pain' and > > 'disgruntled' and 'disaffected' and 'unhappy' .... hey!!!!!! > > i think i am onto something > > > > i hate to break it to you guys folks but i fear our heads > > have become wedged well and truly up our asses > > > > > > > > bye > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > From: gav <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality > > > To: [email protected] > > > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:01 PM > > > > > > should we drop 'truth', 'the market', 'freedom', > > 'america' > > > as well then > > > > > > it's a fucking word > > > > > > meaning is contextual > > > > > > jesus i am so over this shit > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, MarshaV <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: MarshaV <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual > > Quality > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 1:25 PM > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > Definition, connotation and history are > > intricately > > > > involved with patterning, and since the > > definition, > > > > connotation and history of the God-pattern is > > > associated > > > > with "an evil social suppression of > > intellectual > > > and > > > > Dynamic freedom" it should be dropped. Quality > > as > > > > presented in the Moq is a much better > > (untainted) > > > > label. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote: > > > > > > > > > hiya, > > > > > > > > > > "In the third stage, that of 'absolute > > religion', > > > the > > > > selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are > > seen > > > as > > > > distinct yet essentially related, and at the same > > time > > > as > > > > grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is > > conceived > > > 'as the > > > > Being who is at once the source, the sustaining > > power, > > > and > > > > the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not > > mean, > > > > however, that the idea of God is completely > > > indeterminate, > > > > so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism > > of > > > Herbert > > > > Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject > > and > > > > object, and the more we understand the spiritual > > life > > > of > > > > humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature > > on > > > the > > > > other, so much the more do we learn about God who > > is > > > 'the > > > > ultimate unity of our life and of the life of > > the > > > > world' <<<<<The MOQ would > > > > add a fourth stage where the term “God” is > > > completely > > > > dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression > > of > > > > intellectual and Dynamic freedom. The MOQ > > > > is not just atheistic in this regard. It is > > > > > anti-theistic. >>>>>"" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the > > > concept > > > > remains? ie there is an ultimate unity of our > > life and > > > the > > > > world but we don't call it god we call it quality > > or > > > dynamic > > > > quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some > > other > > > word? > > > > > > > > > > i am confused - seems like a cop out to > > > me...what > > > > difference what we call it? maybe that's why the > > > indians > > > > have hundreds of names for it.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > > Archives: > > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
