apologies marsha for my petulance - just pissed off wasting time quibbling over definitions and other pedantry...
--- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <[email protected]> wrote: > From: gav <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality > To: [email protected] > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:17 PM > so where does censorship fit into the > scheme of things? i thought it would have been a social > pattern no? so by eliminating the g.o.d. word (god i hope he > didn't hear me - i might get oppressed) everything is better > eh? i say 'why stop there!?"....let's ban 'pain' and > 'disgruntled' and 'disaffected' and 'unhappy' .... hey!!!!!! > i think i am onto something > > i hate to break it to you guys folks but i fear our heads > have become wedged well and truly up our asses > > > > bye > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: gav <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality > > To: [email protected] > > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:01 PM > > > > should we drop 'truth', 'the market', 'freedom', > 'america' > > as well then > > > > it's a fucking word > > > > meaning is contextual > > > > jesus i am so over this shit > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, MarshaV <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > From: MarshaV <[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual > Quality > > > To: [email protected] > > > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 1:25 PM > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Definition, connotation and history are > intricately > > > involved with patterning, and since the > definition, > > > connotation and history of the God-pattern is > > associated > > > with "an evil social suppression of > intellectual > > and > > > Dynamic freedom" it should be dropped. Quality > as > > > presented in the Moq is a much better > (untainted) > > > label. > > > > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote: > > > > > > > hiya, > > > > > > > > "In the third stage, that of 'absolute > religion', > > the > > > selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are > seen > > as > > > distinct yet essentially related, and at the same > time > > as > > > grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is > conceived > > 'as the > > > Being who is at once the source, the sustaining > power, > > and > > > the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not > mean, > > > however, that the idea of God is completely > > indeterminate, > > > so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism > of > > Herbert > > > Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject > and > > > object, and the more we understand the spiritual > life > > of > > > humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature > on > > the > > > other, so much the more do we learn about God who > is > > 'the > > > ultimate unity of our life and of the life of > the > > > world' <<<<<The MOQ would > > > add a fourth stage where the term “God” is > > completely > > > dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression > of > > > intellectual and Dynamic freedom. The MOQ > > > is not just atheistic in this regard. It is > > > > anti-theistic. >>>>>"" > > > > > > > > > > > > gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the > > concept > > > remains? ie there is an ultimate unity of our > life and > > the > > > world but we don't call it god we call it quality > or > > dynamic > > > quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some > other > > word? > > > > > > > > i am confused - seems like a cop out to > > me...what > > > difference what we call it? maybe that's why the > > indians > > > have hundreds of names for it.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > > Archives: > > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
