Gav, If the me and the you are removed, it becomes let the better patterns succeed and grow stronger.
Marsha On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:56 PM, gav wrote: > apologies marsha for my petulance - just pissed off wasting time quibbling > over definitions and other pedantry... > > > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: gav <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality >> To: [email protected] >> Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:17 PM >> so where does censorship fit into the >> scheme of things? i thought it would have been a social >> pattern no? so by eliminating the g.o.d. word (god i hope he >> didn't hear me - i might get oppressed) everything is better >> eh? i say 'why stop there!?"....let's ban 'pain' and >> 'disgruntled' and 'disaffected' and 'unhappy' .... hey!!!!!! >> i think i am onto something >> >> i hate to break it to you guys folks but i fear our heads >> have become wedged well and truly up our asses >> >> >> >> bye >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> From: gav <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality >>> To: [email protected] >>> Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:01 PM >>> >>> should we drop 'truth', 'the market', 'freedom', >> 'america' >>> as well then >>> >>> it's a fucking word >>> >>> meaning is contextual >>> >>> jesus i am so over this shit >>> >>> >>> --- On Tue, 9/3/10, MarshaV <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> From: MarshaV <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual >> Quality >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 1:25 PM >>>> Greetings, >>>> >>>> Definition, connotation and history are >> intricately >>>> involved with patterning, and since the >> definition, >>>> connotation and history of the God-pattern is >>> associated >>>> with "an evil social suppression of >> intellectual >>> and >>>> Dynamic freedom" it should be dropped. Quality >> as >>>> presented in the Moq is a much better >> (untainted) >>>> label. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote: >>>> >>>>> hiya, >>>>> >>>>> "In the third stage, that of 'absolute >> religion', >>> the >>>> selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are >> seen >>> as >>>> distinct yet essentially related, and at the same >> time >>> as >>>> grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is >> conceived >>> 'as the >>>> Being who is at once the source, the sustaining >> power, >>> and >>>> the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not >> mean, >>>> however, that the idea of God is completely >>> indeterminate, >>>> so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism >> of >>> Herbert >>>> Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject >> and >>>> object, and the more we understand the spiritual >> life >>> of >>>> humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature >> on >>> the >>>> other, so much the more do we learn about God who >> is >>> 'the >>>> ultimate unity of our life and of the life of >> the >>>> world' <<<<<The MOQ would >>>> add a fourth stage where the term “God” is >>> completely >>>> dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression >> of >>>> intellectual and Dynamic freedom. The MOQ >>>> is not just atheistic in this regard. It is >>>>> anti-theistic. >>>>>"" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the >>> concept >>>> remains? ie there is an ultimate unity of our >> life and >>> the >>>> world but we don't call it god we call it quality >> or >>> dynamic >>>> quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some >> other >>> word? >>>>> >>>>> i am confused - seems like a cop out to >>> me...what >>>> difference what we call it? maybe that's why the >>> indians >>>> have hundreds of names for it.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
