Steve: If we ARE our values, It simply could not make sense to say we CHOOSE our values anymore than it makes sense to say we are DETERMINED BY our values. Where you see 2 mutually exclusive SOM based options, I see a third option where if accepted denies that the other two even make sense as questions. If we ARE our values, it just doesn't make any sense to ask if we CHOOSE our values or are DETERMINED BY our values. These are just non-questions from the MOQ perspective.
Ron: Oh, if we use prefference, rather than choice then you can chill. we can have a discussion all day about PREFFERING our values but as soon as we use the term choice it becomes meaningless. when we choose/follow the dynamic in our lives, it's not the same as preferring it.. when we choose/follow the determined static in our lives, its not the same as preffering it... I dunno...if we are framing the discussion, note, discussion..not dilemma,, for the DILEMMA disapears.. in MoQ then the terms we use should'nt make a difference, because in a MoQ frame work their meaning is the same. seems like you are the only one hung up and haunted by the terms and their former implications so much so, you cant even submit to the idea that when we speak about the distinction of freewill and determinism we are talking about the distinction between dynamic and static Quality sans the either/or "Dilemma". Taking away the either/or Dilemma takes away certainy, absolute truth,, ect..all those conepts you insist are still invoked with the usage of the terms, those terms do not change the context, context changes the usage. ...... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
