dmb to Marsha who responded to Andre:
I think it's obvious that Jan's assertion has been totally defeated. His response was totally irrelevant to the point. It's also obvious that you have no idea what's going on, Marsha.

Andre:
Well, it is of course needless to say but dmb's point here is as accurate as they have been. Both Marsha and Jan completely miss the point which from the latter's point of view I found disappointing since he wrote a book based and using, alledgedly, the insights gained on Pirsig's MoQ.

As far as Marsha is concerned...nothing surprises me anymore with regards to her intellectual acumen.
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