J-A,
Still no point to present? I'm not surprised. You seem to confirm and
demonstrate dmb's pragmatism, that truth is whatever is best for you to
believe. Sigh.
J-A quotes RMP: "Life can't exist on Dynamic Quality alone. It has no staying
power. To cling to Dynamic Quality alone apart from any static patterns is to
cling to chaos."
I agree.
And rather than Socrates' d i a l e c t i c s, I prefer his statement "What I
do not know I do not think I know.
Marsha
On May 14, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected]> <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085)
>
> Dear Marsha
>
> Sorry for that. You seem to confirm dmb thesis that you're rigidly
> anti-intellectual which makes it impossible to maintain a useful dialogue at
> this forum.
> RMP: "Life can't exist on Dynamic Quality alone. It has no staying power. To
> cling to Dynamic Quality alone apart from any static patterns is to cling to
> chaos."
>
> Please, do not forget to burn the clay before you sell it.
>
> Jan-Anders
>
>
> 14 maj 2013 x kl. 11.10 skrev MarshaV:
>
>>
>> J-A,
>>
>> You would like to restrict me to the the either/or, yes/no dichotomy of the
>> Flatlander's language? No thanks. Closed-ended questions make me sneeze.
>> In Flatland the tendency is to label a pattern, then give that label a
>> definition, then take the pattern to actually be the labeled definition.
>> That's reification and a very superficial understanding.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>> p.s. Get someone else to play the role of Alcibiades.
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 13, 2013, at 6:37 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085)
>>>
>>> Dear Marsha
>>>
>>> Of course there is a point. Are you able to agree in any point? Y/N
>>>
>>> J A
>>>
>>>
>>> 13 maj 2013 x kl. 12.25 skrev MarshaV:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> J-A,
>>>>
>>>> There never was a point, was there? And now another pointless question?
>>>>
>>>> Mu!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 6:10 AM, Jan Anders Andersson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you like the writings of Robert M Pirsig?
>>>>>
>>>>> J A
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 13 maj 2013 x kl. 11.05 skrev MarshaV:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> J-A,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What she?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 4:50 AM, Jan Anders Andersson
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So did you like the pattern she created?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 13 maj 2013 x kl. 10.28 skrev MarshaV:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J-A,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would you now like to lecture me on how you have achieved a similar
>>>>>>>> performance of beauty, harmony, balance, and how I could too if only I
>>>>>>>> listen to your wise words?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 3:43 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How about this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.flixxy.com/the-incredible-power-of-concentration-miyoko-shida.htm#.UZCXf3DEjcU
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J A
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings J-A,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On May 13, 2013, at 1:56 AM, Jan Anders Andersson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Marsha
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think you are interested to know its point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it your habit (pattern) to think you KNOW other people's interests?
>>>>>>>> That's a rather grandiose claim. - Make your point!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's my mundane point:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- Static patterns of value are repetitive processes (multiple
>>>>>>>> events),
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> conditionally co-dependent,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> impermanent,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and ever-changing,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable,
>>>>>>>> predictable pattern.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Within the MoQ,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> these patterns are morally categorized into a four-level,
>>>>>>>> evolutionary,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hierarchical
>>>>>>>> structure:
>>>>>>>> intellectual,
>>>>>>>> social,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> biological,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and inorganic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Static quality exists in stable patterns relative to other patterns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patterns have no independent, inherent
>>>>>>>> existence. ---
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> p.s. Consider this explanation in the same category as "pure
>>>>>>>> experience" where 'pure' doesn't mean 'pure' but merely 'relatively
>>>>>>>> pure' and there are no accusations of some horrendous, unspeakable,
>>>>>>>> anti-intellectual crime against definition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> snip...
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