Hi MarshaV and All, We are trying to delineate the scope of metaphysics DQ/SQ. "Poetry can exceed logic" puts us outside of the logical consideration of DQ/SQ reality. It becomes a false statement as poetry does not exceed logic DQ/SQ in being meaningful. Logic embraces DQ/SQ.
IMHO Joe. On 11/25/13 1:12 PM, "MarshaV" <val...@att.net> wrote: > > Greetings Joe, > > A words meaning is analogy built of analogy built of analogy, etc., etc., > etc., ... Poetry can exceed logic. > > > > Triphammer Bridge > > by A.R. Ammons > > I wonder what to mean by sanctuary, if a real or > apprehended place, as of a bell rung in a gold > surround, or as of silver roads along the beaches > > of clouds seas don't break or black mountains > overspill; jail: ice here's shapelier than anything, > on the eaves massive, jawed along gorge ledges, solid > > in the plastic blue boat fall left water in: if I > think the bitterest thing I can think of that seems like > reality, slickened back, hard, shocked by rip-high wind: > > sanctuary, sanctuary, I say it over and over and the > word's sound is the one place to dwell: that's it, just > the sound, and the imagination of the sound -- a place. > > > > > > > > >> On Nov 25, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Joseph Maurer <jh...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Hi MarshaV and All: >> >> Logos/Logic! The word (logos) embodies logic. Meaning is embedded in the >> word (logos). Without logic a word has no meaning DQ/SQ. A word DQ >> embodies indefinable logic. >> >> Imho Joe >> >> >>> On 11/25/13 2:09 AM, "MarshaV" <val...@att.net> wrote: >>> >>> His Quality was a metaphysical entity, not a mystic one. Or was it? What was >>> the difference? He answered himself that the difference was one of >>> definition. >>> Metaphysical entities are defined. Mystical Ones are not. That made Quality >>> mystical. No. It was really both. Although he'd thought of it purely in >>> philosophical terms up to now as metaphysical, he had all along refused to >>> define it. That made it mystic too. Its indefinability freed it from the >>> rules >>> of metaphysics." >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
