Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Platt, Arlo > > [Platt] > My cat has a self, a very individual, unique self. You don't have to be human > to be a self. A dog's response to a fire is not DQ; it's a static biological > pattern. > > [Arlo] > I have no idea how you reconcile those two statements. You cat has no concept > of "self", it responds only biologically. It has no culture, and therefore it > does not think, and therefore it has no "I am". > > You Platt (a human so far as we can tell) see that your cat has a > self, "a personality" but there is evidence (in antelope) that Arlo is > right, in that animals themselves appear to have no useful conception > of their own self. > > Aaah but language, there's the rub ... for another day maybe. > > Ian
My cat has all the attributes of a "self" except complex language. But "himself" has no problem communicating his needs to me. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
