Ian, You and Platt have given your cats all the attributes of "self". "Self", like all concepts, is human and cannot apply to cats or any animals. That would require a non human point of view (there are no other points of view - "point of view" itself is a uniquely human concept) and humans can only have a human point of view, so to know that cats think is an affirmation of "collective consciousness" (which is not possible because I cannot be anyone other than me or to quote the great philosopher Popeye - "I am what I am and that's all I am!"; to assume, which you and Platt are doing, is anthropomorphization. Aaaaaand we're back! Man is the measure of all things.
Micah <Hi Platt, leaving cat language itself aside, as I suggested ... <What the cat can communicate with you is one thing, but I doubt the <cat has any conception of itself to communicate in any way. Like, I <doubt your cat could communicate the difference between "I'm hungry" <and "this similar cat next to me is hungry". <You, a relatively intelligent human - relative to your cat that is ;-) <- infer the cat is talking about itself because it is "talking", and <the two of you have some learned behaviors. <Your cat (my cat too) has all the attributes of self except the <slightest evidence it can even conveive of it itself, let alone <communicate it. <Ian > > My cat has all the attributes of a "self" except complex language. But "himself" > has no problem communicating his needs to me. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
