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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Perella
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [MD] Perception,evolution and the spirit
> [Ron]
> Dm, I want to yes there is a distinction between perception and
> language,
Sure, and a tree is not a hummingbird.
[Ron]
> but even in my most
> non lingual moments visually I process data in terms of understanding
> the object I'm seeing.
Understand the object, how?
[Ron]
> Carl jung suggests that all experience is based on symbols created
> from the first experiences of when we were children that even our
> perception is entirely based on symbol relation.
What symbols? When I stare at a tree, I don't stare at symbols in
my head - I can if I want, but at this moment I'm staring at something
on the biological level, not the intellectual level called tree.
[Ron]
> I believe when we experience something and have no idea of what it is,
> that is pure non-s/o distinction.
What really is a tree? Aren't physic people (sorry, can't think
what their titled is at the moment), and even biologists still studying
trees?
Sure a basic foundation is intellectualized, but what of natural
history, ecosystems, molecule to tree evolution, etc... This is the
tree's story.
[Ron]
> Ever get lost and have no idea where
> you are then connect up with a road you are familier with, a road you
> use all the time, ever notice how your perception changes when you
> realize where you are? I see s/o as symbol relation and therefore view
> language as a complex form Of symbol relation for language evokes
> symbol
imagery.
And I don't have all the answers about myself yet let alone where I
am. I mean in relation to what. I can say I'm on the earth, but this
experience, this direct experience, and each season, yeah I know summer
is hot, but each summer I live I still find the woods/where I live, to
be an experience that offers nothing, but lovely, just plain lovely I
say. I don't walk around in my head with symbols in place of trees, I
can, but at this moment it's these trees, my son banging on something,
the crickets, green leaves, evening light, etc...
crickets, oh winter kept you away and now your music is adored, SA
P.S. Ron, earlier during this thread I mentioned to you that endurance
as an indicator of static quality, and endurance also as a measure of
how much a static pattern is dynamicly receptive and that decay and
growth are static patterns but to focus only on decay or growth is to
take away their dynamic quality for now you've locked a static pattern
into an it must be either/or. What do you think of this?
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