Judi, Lets just assume for now that Dr. DuJardin made a semantic mistake on his definition of form. All the rest is correct, and avoid any more confussion.
Good luck Pablo Quoting morphmet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pablo, > I agree with you on this. The thing was that before this discussion > I > thought I had a clear idea of both terms (with JP Dujardin´s > explanation), > but now I have been reading and things got complicated. In > Klingemberg´s > course, "Analysis of Organismal Form" I have understood that the > Shape of an > objects includes all its geometric features except for its size, > location > and orientation. Whereas the Form of an objects includes all its > geometric > features except for location and orientation, so Form = size + > shape. > In conclusion, shape = conformación, including all definitions (JP > Dujardin > and others) but "Forma" (as JP Dujardin defines it) won't be the same > as > Form. > I think this is getting too confused...... > Judi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "morphmet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:04 AM > Subject: Re: Form, and shape translations to spanish > > > > Judi, > > > > I understand that Form = size + shape. Therefore "form" should be > related > > to both isometric and allometric size effects. Shape is free of > isometric > > size but allometric effects could remain. There is a "preform > space" > > which is composed of all objects translated to a common origin, > with size > > and orientation remaining to be separated. > > > > I think there is something wrong in your last definition of "form", > there > > should not be anything considered as "form" that does not have > something > > of "size" within it. > > > > Pablo > > > > Pablo Jarrin > > Grad student. > > Dept. of Biology > > Boston University > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Replies will be sent to the list. > > For more information visit http://www.morphometrics.org > > > > > -- > Replies will be sent to the list. > For more information visit http://www.morphometrics.org > > > -- Replies will be sent to the list. For more information visit http://www.morphometrics.org
