On 11/28/00 4:02 PM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Gervase
Markham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> And we are politely telling you that yelling and complaining is unlikely
>>> to get things fixed in any different order, or any faster. Developers are
>>> trying to get work done using these newsgroups, and the more time they are
>>> reading your ranting, the less time they are spending coding.
>>
>> And not complaining has been more effective somehow? LDAP has been missing
>> for every single milestone in the last year or so, none of the NS releases
>> has had it.
>
> That's because there was never any plan to implement it! If LDAP was a
> priority for you, then a year ago would have been a good time to politely
> find out that there was no plan to implement it, and set about arranging
> someone to do it. This is still the best course of action (although Beonex
> have got there before you.)
Because a year ago there was a new directory option in the address book, it
just wasn't functional. This said to me, and quite a few people..."It's
going to be in there, it just isn't done yet." Now, you are telling me that
it was *never* going to be in there. So what was that, a smoke screen?
>
>> email users. I'd be interested to know if LDAP is completely nonexistent at
>> your school, or you just aren't using it.
>
> There's an unofficial LDAP server. But we have no need for it - our 10,000
> users are managed perfectly compentently, thanks :-)
Oh I'd LOVE to check out your IS - types and ask them how perfectly that is.
Also, are you using finger to do address lookups? How do you find out
someone's email address. It may not be LDAP, but there's got to be SOMETHING
there...
>
>> The problem is, month by month, 4.7 becomes more of a pain than it is worth.
>
> Why? It doesn't stop doing those things which you seem to want it for!
> It'll always be a good IMAP client (at least, until they rev. the IMAP
> standard again.)
Because, (lord I hate explaining user issues), the *only* advantage
Communicator had was the integration. But now, AOL dropped the calendar
client in favor of a web only client. So we had to upgrade to CS&T's
Calendar server and client, which has better calendaring standards support
than Netscape's ever did, and allows for offline scheduling. (the web is NOT
the panacea paradigm). So that was one issue. Netscapes Java support is not
consistant across its platforms, so for Java sites, we have a spare browser
on each platform, IE on the Mac, etc. So that's another integration issue.
Netscape 4.7.5 won't function with Docushare, our XML - based document
management system at all. Older versions did, but 4.7.5 fixed a rather
embarassing security hole, and since we do have to occasionally deal with
real-world security, as in government-type stuff, there's another issue.
Netscape's filters are inadequate for the email traffic we are running.
Netscape's FTP capabilities are, in a word, crap. It doesn't work well with
PGP, etc.....
4.7.5 is dying the 'death of a thousand cuts'. The IMAP speed is still
there, but it's not THAT much better.
john
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