On 11/28/00 10:17 AM, in article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Gervase
Markham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm yelling, complaining, bitching to Mozilla, because a) Netscape either
>> isn't listening, or doesn't wish to act as though they are, which is much
>> the same thing, and b) So far, Mozilla has been the better product, and
>> shows signs of things getting fixed.
>
> And we are politely telling you that yelling and complaining is unlikely
> to get things fixed in any different order, or any faster. Developers are
> trying to get work done using these newsgroups, and the more time they are
> reading your ranting, the less time they are spending coding.
And not complaining has been more effective somehow? LDAP has been missing
for every single milestone in the last year or so, none of the NS releases
has had it. When silence doesn't work...
>
>> Supporting IMAP without LDAP is useless.
>
> Rubbish. I use IMAP regularly without LDAP, and so do a load of people in
> my university.
Then your not in the sweet spot of IMAP installs. The idea behind IMAP is
for better manageability of email, which lends itself to large numbers of
users, not surprisingly, LDAP is a nice way to manage those large numbers of
email users. I'd be interested to know if LDAP is completely nonexistent at
your school, or you just aren't using it.
>
>> use of LDAP. Besides, at least for most corporate use, we'll trade total w3c
>> web standards compliance for email and LDAP.
>
> Then use 4.x, as Netscape recommends you do.
>
> No-one is forcing you to use NS 6.
The problem is, month by month, 4.7 becomes more of a pain than it is worth.
So we are rapidly heading for replacing it. I would *prefer* to keep things
in a NS/Moz way...either one is good. But right now I *can't*, and neither
can a lot of folks in corporate or higher ed situations. We don't like being
forced, either *into* something, by Bill the Gates, or *out* of something,
by NS/Moz at the moment. But that's what's happening
john
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the empire.
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