Thorsten, et al --

...and then Thorsten Haude said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello!


% 
% * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-12-09 20:12]:
% We had an exchange on this one before, but the more I see it, the less
% I like it.

Fair enough.


% 
% >It all started back in the Usenet news days of 1989 and 1990, before
...
% >track of who said what when.  To set my comments apart from others'
% >I started using %_ (the common notation for a trailing space, just
...
% As others have said, you cannot set your comments apart by using a
% different quote sign.

While others may have said it, and some may even believe it, I don't get
it.  It makes sense to me to have a mixture of indent chars in a
discussion, and it makes things clearer for me.  To each his own.


% As others have noticed, uniqueness is a Bad Thing in today's email
% environment.

Admitted -- but I also see room for flexibility and configuration
choices.  I mean, c'mon, LookOut! will even handle %_ gracefully (well,
as gracefully as it can handle anything)!


% I can't really say what went on in Usenet when we were young, but I
% can definitely say that your quote sign makes your mails harder to
% read. Since you know this, you must should have a very good reason to
% use it anyway. Please tell us.

Other than the fact that I just plain like the character and have no
great fondness for '>', and the opinion that % is nicer anyway, I don't
have any other reasons.  At least, none of which I can think, and I
promise I'm *not* just trying to be stubborn.


% 
% >I've simply kept it since then, and it's relatively unique and still
% >recognizable.
% When I was young, I spent a lot of time in Fido. I prepended the quote
% sign with the initials, just like discussed before.

Yep.


% This was only possible because I and 80% of everyone else used
% Crosspoint, which not only knew how to display this thing, but could
% also reliably reflow quotes, keeping everything neat even at the 10th

Sounds lovely.


% quoting level. (It was also made easier by compulsory clear names.)
% This was very useful, since you could see with one look who wrote the
% quote (not who quoted it). It was color-coded of course. Nobody had

Sure.  That sounds like Rob's argument, though.


% any problems, because everyone either used Crosspoint or started using
% it very soon, so it was accepted standard.

Great!  I predict the same thing with %_ and mutt.  I look forward to the
time when 80% of everyone else will use mutt right along with us -- and
perhaps find the world a better place as well.


% 
% I don't use initials anymore, because most MUAs/editors would break.
% You keep your bad habit even though you are fully aware that your
% quoting style does the same. This without giving any reason but
% personal tradition.

There are a lot of things that I do purely out of personal tradition or
belief, and I'm not about to change that.  There are even things that
I do to incorporate the traditions or beliefs of others -- and I mean
in as simple a way as a writing style, without getting into the whole
arena of what might more typically be considered "belief tolerance" or
whatever politically correct name such things might have today.  In this
particular case I firmly believe that the proper tool -- mutt -- exists
and has the configuration capability to work *with* my particular style
and further believe that anyone else (particularly those already using
mutt) has the ability to choose whether or not to incorporate my practice.


% 
% Your mails are as ineffective as outlooked mails with the answer
% following the questions.

Oooh, that was way harsh.  

I understand "ineffective" to mean that any message I might have is
utterly lost -- something that I wouldn't even say about the upside-down
quoting of Outhouse -- and is just noise in the ether.  I'm sorry that
you feel that way.  Of course, you may not receive my condolences, given
the entirely ineffective method of their delivery.  Sorry about that, too
(begin endless loop about here).


% 
% >Hey, at least mine is easy to match with $quote_regexp!
% I don't change my mutt.rc for individuals who are not me.

Fair enough.  There are probably a lot of variables that you don't
need, then.  Maybe I should petition to get % added to the default list
so that you will be able to read my mail.


% 
% Thorsten
% -- 
% If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
%       - Sir Isaac Newton


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