----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [OGF-L] If people are *really* bothered by crippled OGC issuedunder the 
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>
> --- "Ryan S. Dancey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 10:14, Fred wrote:
> > > On the other hand, I can't see how one could make a new system for magic
> > that
> > > was designed to be used with the MSRD and not be derivative of it.
> >
> > You could certainly do a new magic system (that is, a system for
> > determining what, when, and how often a user could use magic power) that
> > was not derivative of OGC.  If you implemented spell effects in a
> > universal way that didn't interact with the stats of the game, your
> > spells themselves might not be derivative of OGC.
>
> You could do a magic system that was not derivative of OGC.  I didn't say
> that.
>
> On the other hand, I can't see how one could make a new system for magic THAT
> WAS DESIGNED TO BE USED WITH THE MSRD and not be derivative of it.
>
> > I could see that kind of system working, for example, in a Lord of the
> > Rings environment where magic was atmospheric, not quantitative.  Or
> > even the Force powers as seen in the first Star Wars movie (EPIV) which
> > pretty much amounted to "the power to cloud the mind" and "the power to
> > act with total concentration", etc.
>
> That sounds like a system that is a lack of system.

What if his magic (or force) system involved giving you a number of points that you 
could
spend under certain circumstances when you didn't like a dice roll that went against 
you?

So someone with "combat magic" could reroll any roll during combat.

Someone with "mental magic" could reroll any roll that involved thinking (in the case 
of
the SRD or MSRD this would be Int or Wis checks, skill checks based (or feat enhanced
checks) based on these abilities, SRD/MSRD spell checks involving these abilities or 
saves
based on these abilities).

Any other general magic or power could also be defined in the same way. "Movement 
magic"
that would allow rerolls if you were moving. "Healing magic" that involved using your
power to cancel out a previous roll that damaged any character. Etc etc.

If this was all done in a general way (without mentioning the abilities by name, but
allowing readers to infer what the rules affect for themselves), it could apply to 
Action!
System as much as the SRD or MSRD. I think maybe this is the sort of system that Ryan
meant.

David S
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