>From: "The Sigil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>If we can't judge them on CC only, we also can't judge them on R&R only.  
>We have to look at the whole spectrum - and since the pattern has not been 
>to continue with a liberal release of OGC, I cannot in good conscience say 
>that they are opening up more as time goes on.

Point taken. (And much more worthwhile to discuss specific examples.)

Two points in response (mostly based on the fact that I HAVE been using a 
lot of S&S stuff - scanning an OCRing it and extracting the good bits):

1. I can't help but agree (indeed have brought it up on this list myself) 
that their PI designation is a little heavyhanded and somewhat hard to 
follow in places, BUT a little conservative thought and I did not find it 
truly hard to pick out the parts I was sure were OK.  I would characterize 
the use of the word "crippled" to be more than a little heavy handed.  They 
are conservative.

(Admittedly, I have *no* concern with the creature names, as I am refitting 
the stats to my own world-specific creatures.)

2. The notion that "other companies are following suit" simply isn;t 
correct.  In fact, the industry is all over the map on this one.  Check out 
"Soverign Stone" for instance.  Wide open.  Great stuff, too.

>I want to point out that I like their products and I like their company - I 
>think it's among the best out there.  This is not to be an attack on 
>Clarke.

Agreed.

I would DEFEND their right to protect whatever they can, though.  It is 
THEIR WORK.  In case you haven;t looked, WotC started with two pages of 
flavor text, wonderful background and explanation, and ended up giving us:

     PALADIN
     Alignment: Lawful good.
     Hit Die: d10.

Sure its clear, but ... so what?  There is not a whole lot of room to 
criticize other companies after that...

Although it would be nice (and convenient, and easier) to just have a S&S 
SRD, they are under no obligation to spend their own company resources 
providing one.

Faust

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