On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, The Sigil wrote: > May I make one point here... these products are in chronological order by > release date:
[list of SSS products snipped. argued that 9 of 10 are OGC "crippled"] Please explain in *very* specific terms what you mean by being OGC "crippled". I think after the thread of a couple weeks ago it should be clear that I'm all in favor of improving the clarity of OGC/PI designations in products; but I really don't understand your claim that the OGC in the SSS products you listed (and no, I don't own all of the items listed - I only have CC1, RR, W1, R1) don't contain useable OGC. It would appear that you think that a publisher has to make it so a product can be photocopied or cut&pasted for there to be useable OGC in the product. Don't think you're going to get very far with that argument, but you're free to hold it if you like. While I think Necromancer modules W1 & R1 could be improved in terms of complete clarity, there is certainly plenty of useable OGC in each - but it's probably got to be retyped by the secondary user rather than just photocopied. I'm not certain how much new OGC is presented in any case. (I really don't expect modules to be great sources of a lot of new OGC in the first place - mostly they take OGC and put it together in an interesting way for a gaming session.) CC1 is extremely clear in designation of OGC - the main complaint seems to be that the names of creatures are OGC. But I just don't get the argument that the name is that important for using a creature. (And actually with CC1 the names aren't PI either so they can pretty much be used anyway unless they're specific to the Scarred Lands and could therefore be claimed as unregistered trademarks. And anyway, Clark has said to just ask if you want to use the names.) So I guess I really don't understand your claim that these products are "crippled" in terms of their OGC. The OGC is there and it can be used. There's nothing in the license (either spirit or letter) that requires that secondary users can't be required to do some work to use the OGC. alec _______________________________________________ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l
