Which makes it more imperative than ever that a way be found to make the triadic mode more understandable and to say why it is infinitely superior to binary thinking. Without it we perish. This is NOT an academic matter.
amazon.com/author/stephenrose On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote: > I don't find that it's the terms that slow down the use of Peirce in > analysis; I find that it's the concept of a triadic semiosis with that > vital mediation, and the concept of the three modal categories. Both seem > very hard for people to grasp - and so, semiotics is reduced to the > simplistic binarism of Saussurian semiology, which focuses only on > individual units, and searches for their 'hidden', almost Freudian meanings > of 'This'..Stands For..That'. > > Edwina > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F Sowa" <s...@bestweb.net> > To: <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu> > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2017 9:23 PM > Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Possible Article of Interest - CSP's "Mindset" > from AI perspective > > > > On 2/8/2017 12:31 PM, Jerry LR Chandler wrote: >> >>> The three triads of CSP, >>> qualisign, sinsign, legisign; >>> icon, index, symbol; >>> rhema, dicisign, argument, >>> can be, in my opinion, a “recipe” for realism; that is, the logical >>> association of antecedent observations (Qualisigns with logical >>> consequences (legisigns)) What I find exceedingly curious about the >>> (strange) words of this table is that only the last word, “argument” is >>> used in logic. The other eight words are merely dictionary words. >>> Clearly, some similarity with 21 st Century AI exists in these three >>> 19th Century triads. >>> >> >> I have discussed, written about, and lectured on Peirce's semiotic >> to various audiences -- mostly in AI and cognitive science. His >> terminology is indeed a deterrent for many people. >> >> One wonders why CSP’s three triads have not been adopted. >>> >> >> The words qualisign, sinsign, legisign, rhema, and dicisign have >> no chance of being accepted. Even Peirce scholars use them only >> when discussing Peirce's writings. >> >> The triad of icon, index, and symbol is the most widely recognized, >> cited, and used -- partly because the words are more common. Peirce's >> terms 'type' and 'token' are widely used even by people who have no >> idea where they came from. And the words 'predicate' and 'proposition' >> are common in logic. >> >> For teaching Peirce's semiotic, I therefore recommend that those >> five words should be replaced with terms that CSP himself used: >> >> mark, token, type; >> icon, index, symbol; >> predicate, proposition, argument. >> >> See Figure 2, page 5 of "Signs and reality": >> http://www.jfsowa.com/pubs/signs.pdf >> >> For example, consider an index of species. >>> >>> Is it real? >>> Or, ideal? >>> >> >> For both a nominalist and a realist, an index is something >> observable: a pointing finger, a pronoun in speech or writing, >> or a physical occurrence of some kind. >> >> But a species is a type, which is determined by some law >> of nature. A realist would say that the law is real. >> But a nominalist would say that a law is merely a pattern >> of words that summarize some observational data. >> >> In short, both nominalists and realists could use the nine >> terms above in practical applications. They would often >> reach the same conclusions, but they would disagree about >> the existence of referents for the words in the third column. >> >> John >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > > > > >> ----------------------------- >> PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON >> PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to >> peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L >> but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the >> BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce >> -l/peirce-l.htm . >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L > but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the > BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm > . > > > > > >
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