On 11/15/05, Erica Stolte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think I know where I could get older computers
> (Place I got my RAM from once, they were giving away
> older computers before) but unless I knew how to fix
> them, they'd just clutter up my appartment.
> I like such programs, have read about them but have my
> doubts if they'd work.
> I 'm thinking there's a limited of pool of people
> willing to settle for older computers even if they
> work fine (Which is why they end up being thrown out
> in the first place). so while it's a great idea, not
> sure how realistic it is.  Probably most of these
> people get a credit card and buy a brand new computer.
>
> I've done some limited dumpster diving, I look what
> people in my appartment complex throw out sometimes. I
> know that dumpster diving can be illegal, I think it's
> due to being on someones' property, not the stealing
> trash issue. I would not care at all if someone came
> here and took stuff out of our dumpster.
>

Unfortunately I think it has to do more with lawyers and lawsuits than
anything else because technically the dumpsters do not belong to the
business, but to the landfill or garbage company, so what is in the
dumpster is no longer theirs. And if the business does not have "No
Trespassing" signs it's legal to do it. I can't tell you how many
times I have said "go ahead and call the cops" to
strip mall employees who tell me "you can't do that"..... I'm a big
intimidating guy and they usually just go away mad.

One guy was supposedly the property manager for a strip mall and told
me the old "you can't do that" line. I made him show me proof of who
he was and that he had the right to tell me anything.
I thought the poor old guy was gonna have a heart attack as his
shaking hands showed me a crumpled piece of paper I couldn't even make
out what was printed on it.  Just another pissy old fart who thought
he owned the place. I actually thought he was dumpster diving
compettition when I saw him and the beat up pick-up he was driving.
Didn't look like any property manager I would ever hire. The guy was
so shaking mad I though he might actually be foolish enough to take a
swing at me so I left because it was getting too insane.

>
> I would probably limit myself to old mac stuff, not
> because I hate other computers but because it would
> complicate such a project for me to learn about
> another kind of computer system.
>
> Another nice idea, but only thing is giving away
> computers for free would be problematic because the
> new parts would cost money. I'm sure the very first
> thing is a lot of these older fix me up compys would
> need more RAM just like mine.
>
>

Believe me, you definately would want to limit it to Macs. Peecees are
junk throw-aways for the most part and they can be a pain to get
working. I am no electrician, computer repairman, etc..... I know how
to work on old cars and motorcycles, but Macs are different. Usually
Macs are still working or need software issues fixed only. I have
found many peecees but never got one working right yet. I loose
interest quickly on peecees anyway and they are banished to the
garage.

Back to PowerComputing.... I'd like to share some links I have
collected on PowerComputing stuff and if anybody has any to add please
do.

http://powerwatch.com/

http://www.headgap.com/~macstar/homepage.spml

http://www.macgurus.com/products/ram/mgpccramspecs.php

http://simonraven.nuit.ca/macppc/models.shtml

http://www.desktopartist.com/download.htm

http://powercomputing.home.insightbb.com/

And MacGurus has a PowerComputing forum:

http://www.macgurus.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=e1f8d98e1537ae00087f0d6536f098e7&f=25
--

Ron

http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/

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