JaMi, Well doing the cntrl delete did not work (unless there is again something diff. about how to do a cntrl delete with Protel) In other words can I use the keyboard delete key or do I need the scizzors icon. Either way though that did not seem to work, however (and I hated to do this) but if I select all and move the entire design to upper right space yes the via does come into view to delete. But I did get another exception error on the related to the move. Still most likely do to the poly plane. I did say no to rebuild after the move but still got the error. After I really get rid of that via ( it did have a net associated with it too) I will delete and redo planes to see if error goes away. Because as it stand now any time you do anything that affects that plane by a move or etc it gives me an exception error. Gerbers seem OK all else seems OK though. Over the next few days I will take a closer look. This was actually another designers job, I need to get another design out before I tackle really trying to solve this problem. I will post as to the ultimate outcome. Bob
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