Yeah, I get the broken schematic wire thing on my workstation too.  Using a
Matrox G450 video card.

If you like Protel 2.8 and don't see the benefit to 99SE, then by all means
stay with 2.8.  I still use 2.8 occasionally, for the pin swapping feature.
When manually optimizing routing for a 2 layer PCB.

The 99SE autorouter is better, but still not as good as it should be.  It is
useful for some digital boards.

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Montgomery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:52 PM
Subject: [PEDA] Protel 99SE


> I have been using Protel 2.8 for a long time now.  I recently came across
a
> 30 day demo disk of Protel 99SE that Protel had sent me.  I decided to
> install it to see what I have been missing by not upgrading.  I have sort
of
> just looked around a little but was rather shocked to discover 3 key
things:
>
> 1 - It's no faster than Protel 2.8 PCB and Advanced Schematic 3.0.  I
would
> have thought that somewhere along the  way they would have optimized the
> code and sped it up a bit.  Apparently this is not the case.
>
> 2 - The schematic portion of the Protel 99SE (with service pack 6) STILL
> suffers from broken lines when panning.  You know, when you pan the image
> and then pan back, you discover that many of the lines on the screen are
> shifted a pixel or two, requiring you to do a full drawing refresh in
order
> to see the image look good again.
>
> Does anyone at Protel actually use this thing or do they just write the
code
> and ponder wistfully about what it's like to actually run the program?  I
> remember years ago being told by Protel support that the broken line issue
> was a "driver problem," and that it only happened on some systems.  Well,
I
> have been using Protel with both ATI and NVidia cards of all different
> vintages (and on different OS's - 95, 98, 2K) , and it consistently
happens
> on ALL of them.  As someone who has programmed GDI stuff on Windows quite
a
> bit, I think the problem is simply that the code they wrote at Protel
> suffers from various "off by one" errors, and they are either ignorant or
> complacent when it comes to finding and fixing the problem - possibly
both.
>
> All in all, so far I am SO glad I decided to stop upgrading when I did.
My
> big bitch with Protel has always been that they ignore bugs that affect
> everyday use (like drawing a decent image!) while adding new features to
> qualify for marketing based upgrades.
>
>     Thanks,
>     PeterM
>
> PS - So, does DXP also suffer from the broken line issue when drawing
> schematics?
>
>
>
>



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