AMEN! HALLELUJAH! Someone spoke my thoughts exactly. Maybe Altium's stuff would become more accepted and more universal, so more people would be using it, so with more people screaming about some of the problems and unfriendliness we have all encountered, it would get fixed and fixed much quicker ;)
Best regards, William J. Dager Senior Engineering Technician Neuronetics, Inc. 1 Great Valley Parkway Suite 2 Malvern, PA 19355 Phone: 610-640-4202 ext 1022 Cell: 267-255-2553 Fax: 610-640-4206 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.neuronetics.com -----Original Message----- From: Carpenter, Dean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:39 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Semiconducto rmfg Footprint creation This is something I've complained about for a long time. It boggles the mind that "we" were able to come up with a standard Spice model format, and that it is supported by vendors far and wide. You can download models and run them with most spice programs out there. Yet there aren't any integrated libs available. I would really *really* like to see a standard built, probably using XML, that the vendors could use to build schematic and footprint libs for their parts in. EDA software could use those directly, or translate to internal formats as needed. The biggest complaint seems to be along the lines of "Oh don't trust the Protel/Cadence/Whatever libs - they have bugs. Build your own so you KNOW they're right". This would all go away, since the vendors would be providing the libs, and you know they would be correct. Or at least rapidly corrected :) All it would really take is one vendor to start with a standard format, and one EDA company to support it. If it's an open and simple standard, the others would jump in pretty quick I should think. Being XML, it would be extensible, and different programs could use or ignore various portions of the lib as needed. Imagine, having a correct schematic symbol, a correct set of available footprints, pins/ports with correct pin types, and even a link to a correct 3D model ! One day ..... Altium - this is an opportunity. Take the lead. Define the format, and don't exclude other vendor requirements :) Translate the libs to the new format, and send them to the vendors. Get them going. -- Dean Carpenter Principal Architect Purdue Pharma 203-588-7666 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 94TT :) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Semiconducto rmfg Footprint creation UP front: Sorry for the cross-post I just visited Texas instruments and am in some haste to make changes to a board layout (the chip I used in original layout has become a long-lead item, too long, infact, for our company meet delivery to our customer)...Anyway, I was looking up footprint info and discovered that TI provides footprints in several formats, none of which is PCAD or Protel... So, it dawned on me that unless users of these programs tell the semiconductor comanies that they want/need/should have footprints provided for them, then the semiconductor companies aren't goning to do it on their own. I'm not beeging for someone else's footprint, just pointing out that though I here time and time again from vendors and small businesses that they use packages like those produced by Altium, there doesn't appear to be agreat amount of native support from component mfgs. It just doesn't seem right, even if we're not the "big boys..." Just a suggestion folks.When you vist sites like TI.com, and when you're looking for footprint info, I would urge you to take the extra 1-1/2 minutes to urge them to provide such support... this is the addres of ti's suggestions box... http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/symfoot/requestedcadformat.tsp?download Type =F <http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/symfoot/requestedcadformat.tsp?downloa dTyp e=F> Speak or be invisible... Andrew J Jenkins Electrical Engineer Dover Automation Company Subsidiary of Avtron Manufacturing Inc. v: 216 642-1230 x1228 f: 216 750-5105 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is sent using PostCast Server Professional Trial: http://www.postcastserver.com/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
