The way to do it with the mouse is... 1/ right click on 0402 footprint, select FSO.
2/ select match by footprint, press enter. 3/ right click in list panel and check show component children. (this may already be selected) 4/ right click, and select, select all or use control A. 5/ right click on a 0402 designator, on the pcb, select FSO, change 'selected = same' and 'string type to same' also, press enter. 6/ goto the inspector and change the height. As Ian said, this can be made easier, if you plan to use it often. You do need to use DXP for a while to get the hang of queries, they only get easier over time. That's not to say that sometimes the 99 way will be quicker to do. Darren Moore > -----Original Message----- > From: Forum Member [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > John - Augh! No wonder I couldn't do this "simple" global > edit. I don't > have any queries in my favorites yet, so I would need to > build the query > then save it to my favorites. I had tried to create one using > the builder > but it didn't have IsDesignator() as any of the options. > > Ian - The implementation of queries is not intuitive, and for us > non-programers it's not easy to learn. With a better > interface and/or more > consistency and logic it might be understandable for the rest > of us. Sure > its powerful, but more so than most of us ever need. It was a > rare occasion > that I came across an edit in 99se that couldn't be handled > by the simple > 99se editing system. > > Perhaps you know of a truly simply way to do this edit in > DXP. If not, I'd > say that the FSO need some major work, and how can you > possibly defend it > in its present state? > > JM > > > At 05:30 PM 5/30/2004, you wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jim Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2004 5:15 AM > > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Is Protel 99SE to 2004 upgrade a good > idea yet? > > > > > > At 08:23 PM 5/29/2004, Ian wrote: > > > >>The 99SE global edits could be done with just the mouse, or > > > a couple > > > >>of characters. This means that the right hand stayed on > > > the mouse and > > > >>the left hand stayed on the keyboard, which is how most of > > > the time is > > > >>spent in the program. > > > > > > > >Exactly how I run the vast bulk of the ones I do. The > complex ones > > > >require complex typing but these are things you couldn't do > > > in P99SE or > > > >you had to do as much typing. > > > > > > > >> If you have to type sentences into a dialogue box, > > > > > > > >That is what the Find Similar Object dialog is designed > to stop you > > > >having to do. I really do get tired of typing this. Every > > > one new to > > > >the query language should now write out by hand 100 times - > > > "I know what the FSO is." > > > > > > Ian, > > > > > > I don't have much DXP experience yet, but so far I'd be > > > inclined to agree with Hamid. For a number of simple 99se > > > edits that I've tried in DXP, I haven't been able to find a > > > simple DXP method. > > > > > > Here is an example: Change the designator height and width > > > for all '0402' > > > footprints. > > > >Jim > > > >For things like this I have just used the list panel as I > found it easier > >than FSO. > > > >In my favourites I keep some things like > >IsDesignator And HasFootprint('0603') > >IsDesignator And HasFootprint('0805') > >Then all I need do is edit selected columns and the change > is applied. > > > >If I follow the FSO route for this type of edit I find it a > world of pain. > > > >Using FSO, select footprint=same, check create expression as > it is a good > >guide to what FSO is > >actually doing, and uncheck run inspector then click apply. > > > >You now have cleared other selections and correctly selected > all 0402's. > > > >The FSO box has done its stuff. > > > >If you then hit F11 for inspector, or ran it from within FSO > panel, then > >you may find no option to > >change text height or width here, so now to the list panel, > click the list > >tab00.2800.1409 > >Thread-Index: AcRGj126NmRJ2EC/elected items and you are left > with a list > >of 0402 only, but still no option to > >change text height, hmmm, where did it go? > > > >If the height/width attributes of the designator/comment > text were always > >available at this point > >for direct entry of the value to be applied you would have a > home run, but > >no, too simple. > > > >Well, the columns and or entries shown in the list panel or > inspector are > >driven by background > >generated scripts/queries which determine which columns are > applicable for > >editing, the user has > >little choice in this as far as I know. > > > >The expression generated by the FSO for select by > footprint=0402 would be > >like (ObjectKind = > >'Component') And (Footprint = '0402') and that just does not > cut it as it > >does not apply > >specifically to designators (guess). > > > >If in the list panel you right click on the column headers > and 'choose > >columns' you will find the > >display mode for all attributes set to Automatic. So if you > then select to > >show text height / width > >anyway then you get empty fields in that column which you > cannot edit. If > >I can display the column I > >would expect the fields for that record to be available. Dead end. > > > >You would logically think that all attributes applicable to > a selection of > >same footprint parts > >would be available for edit after correct selection/filter > by FSO but they > >are not, certainly I > >would have expected text height/width to be available for > edit in the > >inspector panel directly after > >FSO for change. Unless some hidden, design or environment setting is > >stopping this, but I doubt it > >as you can globally change the selections name/comment > visibility as well as > >type/rotation/height/layer/lock unlock status.... So why not > text height? > > > >This I guess is exactly what you found right? > > > >This is a case where typing, or recall from favourites will > be faster than > >FSO route, unless my > >understanding is also flawed. > >Certainly recall from favourites IS faster than 99se for repetition, > >F12,favourites,select,applyexpression and do your edit as selection > >criteria are already defined and > >they can be as complex as you want. > > > > > This can be done in one dialog box with 7 mouse clicks > > > (excluding typing the new height/width values) in 99se. I > > > have not been unable to find a simple way to do this in DXP. > > > The problem I see in this case is that DXP does not select or > > > mask designators along with their components. > > > > > > I hope that you can prove me wrong. > > > >John > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
