On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 01:26:28AM +0100, Tom Zander wrote:
> On Monday, 5 February 2018 00:55:34 CET Unman wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 08:14:57PM +0100, 'Tom Zander' via qubes-users 
> wrote:
> > > * Having nothing but python APIs for your operating system is something
> > > that makes no sense. Python was never meant for servers, or even big
> > > applications. Finding a full-stack python developer is more rare than
> > > finding a Bitcoin C++ developer.
> > 
> > I'm not sure how much of this is just trolling.
> It is not trolling.
> > You obviously dont mean uses like Google, DropBox, YouTube, Reddit etc.
> > Perhaps you dont know about Eve Online? Mercurial? Blender?
> Absolutely none of these use python for anywhere near the same percentage of 
> components as Qubes does.

NONE of these? Afaik Eve and Mercurial are all Python. 
The rest have been almost all Python at various points.

> Google is a good example, for instance they shipped proto-buffers. Which 
> have bindings in a long list of languages (20 or so).
> Check wikipedia for those examples, reality is much more sobering that you 
> think.
> > There are exceptional developers working in many companies -Google,
> > NASA, Astra Zeneca, to name a few, all using python. The fact that
> > you arent comfortable with it is fine, but not a reason to reject it.
> Thats moving the goalpost. Naturally there are many experienced python 
> developers.
> Let me re-state the point for your benefit;
> Having nothing but python bindings and having practically all your 
> components written in python is without a doubt very realistically limiting 
> the amount of people you can get hacking on Qubes. Add on top of that the 
> content matter, which is highly complex and in many cases includes 
> networking or cross-VM communication or hard-core linux components and you 
> limit the amount of people even more, to the extend I mentioned above.

You may be right, but I'm simply not convinced. That, of course, is
irrelevant. It's a choice for Joanna and Marek to make. You are, of
course, free to rewrite Qubes and its components in a language you're
comfortable with.

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