Isn't it interesting that yet again most posts open ignore the very essence of a post.
Duane was talking about the issue of an adult striking of whom he was not guardian or parent. In many countries this is illegal. This is against the discipline policy of most (if not all) Ranger groups I know of. It just is stupid behaviour. It is asking for intervention from governemnt. It is foolish. Even though I know it will open the flood gates of misguided bigotry I can't help myself asking the question - what is wrong with telling a child why you want him to do something. I certainly know that God didn't bless me with five slaves - but children to bring up in the way of the Lord. The Jewish tradition (that Jesus was brought up in) is based on questions and answers. A child asks "Why..." and the parent or Rabbi explains. This is how knowledge and understanding and wisdom and plain old "how to live right" is passed on from one generation to another. "Do it now" doesn't teach anything except fear. If you can't offer an explanation for why you want something done - then why ask for it to be done - just to prove you can???? There are times when it necessary to give an instruction that needs to be delivered in a tone and manner that receives an immediate reaponse like "get back" when a child is in immediate danger. It is in your manner or delivery that such an instruction will be obeyed automatically. It is on the basis of the relationship you have developed that all you instructions will be followed. Remember - respect a better motivation than fear. We are told to fear the Lord - not our parents or leaders. Victor. At 03:45 PM 1/10/2001 -0700, Ken Komoto wrote: >This response is patently ridiculous and is exactly why we have so many >kids who >do not respond to authority. Since when does any adult have to give a child a >reason for any command? This response places the child in the position of >authority. This is completely upside down from biblical principle which very >specifically states that a child should obey and reverses the Royal Ranger >Code >which specifies Obedience of those in Authority. God save us from those who >would put children in charge of the world!!! > >At 07:36 AM 10/2/2001 +1000, Victor Zalakos wrote: >>The grandfather erred in my judgement by not giving the child a reason >>for putting on the shoes - "you will cut your feet to shreds on the >>blackberries" seems appropriate. >>Perhaps give the instruction and explanation twice, then pick the child >>up and remove them from the situation and the danger that lay nearby. >> >>Victor. > >============================================================ >Kenneth Komoto mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Pioneer Commander Outpost 193 Phone: (530)752-7197 >Southpointe Christian Center Fax : (530)752-0329 >Sacramento, Ca 95828 > _______ To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
