Now this one i can side with pretty good. I was noticing  tones and hints of 
disagreement with The Word in some of the other posts, but I am trying to 
tone down my responses...so i jes'held my peace...


>From: Edward Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [RR] Spank'n the sassy boy..
>Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 18:30:28 -0400
>
>The bible says that God chastises all of us.  Abused or
>not we all get it from God now and again.  The Bible
>says rebellion is in the heart of a child and the rod
>of correction drives it far from him.  While we must
>be vigilant to oppose abuse, we must also be vigilant
>to apply some rod when necessary.  It is nice to see
>that someone is not ashamed of discipline.
>
>It reminds me of the American boy who vandalized a car
>in an oriental country and was sentenced to lashing with
>cane.  Many here in the US were appalled.  Even the
>Chief Executive wound up involved a bit.  We have become
>a more rebellious people since we decided that spanking
>is a bad thing.  We reap what we sow.
>
>Good for grampa.
>
>
>Lump'a Coal wrote:
> >
> > Here's the situation...
> >
> > "Drew" is a 12 year old from a abusive home of
> > chemical dependent parents, and has been adopted
> > by his Grandparents.
> >
> > He's a member of Troop 328
> >
> > On the last camp, during the service project,
> > in front of everyone...
> >
> > "Drew" fell in the creek that ran through the blackberry
> > vines we were clearing.  The cattle are free to make
> > that creek a muddy mess, and I have no doubt his shoes
> > smelled like cow manure.
> >
> > Even so, he was told to put his wet shoes back on. (1)
> >
> > Drew replied: "But my shoes are wet!"
> >
> > His Grandpa said: (2)"Drew.. put your shoes on, now"
> >
> > Drew replied: "But my shoes are wet"
> >
> > Granpa:(3) "Drew, listen.. put your shoes on"
> >
> > Drew: "No,my shoes are wet!!!"
> >
> > Grandpa:(4) "Drew, there is a reason you must put your shoes on..
> >           Do it now!"
> >
> > Drew:"But my shoes are wet"
> >
> > Grandpa: (5)"Drew, put your shoes on and go back to camp"
> >
> > Drew:"No... my shoes are wet!"
> >
> > Grandpa:(6) "I'm not asking son, I telling you to PUT ON
> >            THOSE SHOES!"
> >
> > At this point---
> > An "Adult Leader" asked Grandpa if he could help drew
> > understand what he needed to do...
> >
> > Grandpa: "Sure..anything to bring that kid to reason"
> >
> > The "Adult leader" led Drew with his shoes behind a bush
> > and sternly lectured him on listening to authority and
> > respecting his Grandpa, then... *Spanked his butt!
> >
> > *Drew, put his shoes on and ran crying back to camp....
> >
> > Question-
> > 1. In "Line" with what you would do?
> >
> > 2.Out of line with your ethics?
> >
> > -=*=-
> >
> > =====
> > *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership.
> > --------------********+********--------------------
> > Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower,
> > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
> > and both in the .....cause!
> >
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