At 10:18 AM 2/13/2002 -0800, Doc wrote: > > Where do you start? >--------------------- > >*I'd start by makeing it clear that the Outpost is going to >hold it's meetings off the Church sight in the Community.
Why? What do you accomplish by "hiding" the fact that Royal Rangers is a church-based, church-sponsored, Christ-centered ministry to boys? Even many Boy Scout troops meet in their host church's building. This is a vital part of the Royal Rangers program/ministry, and I would strongly discourage a movement to take Royal Rangers out of the church setting. This is not to say that you shouldn't reach out to the community. I'm a strong advocate of reaching into your community and using Royal Rangers as one of the hooks to bring folks into the church (the other ministries -- Missionettes, Youth, Children's Church, Sunday School, etc. -- serving as some of the other hooks). But don't try to hide the fact that Royal Rangers is based in and sponsored by your church. >Let the YOUTH go to both RR and Uth church.. Agreed. Find some way for boys to be in both (and for girls to be in both Youth and Missionettes). >I'd ask permission and seek the blessing of the Church board >to also contact BSA and charter as a "Church based youth orginization" >under the Venture scout program, so as to be welcome to use >their camps and facilities in the region. I'd be honest to the >BSA as to what my agenda was, and agree to what they suggest >practical to meet both programs policies. I've known Royal Rangers groups who have done this, and for some settings it works. But you really need to decide what you want to be -- Royal Rangers or BSA. The two groups are different, period. You can't do both effectively. Access to the BSA facilities and training are valuable, I agree. But be careful about any compromise you may have to make in the Royal Rangers program to also try to be BSA. ><snip> >*Then we would meet at a Outdoor campfire as a group, and sing >some silly songs and lead into some reflective songs ect. How about some Christian praise and worship songs? >Then a *BRIEF GENERIC DEVOTION *closed by a Group cheer! What? Why a "brief generic devotion?" What about closing in prayer. We are Royal Rangers . . . not BSA. We should have nothing to be ashamed about when presenting the gospel. After all, our mission statement is to "Reach, Teach, and Keep boy for Christ." And if this is the first meeting boys come to, it may be the only one. . . shouldn't we take the opportunity to present the plan of salvation to them? I don't mean push it down their throats, but boys and parents should know what Royal Rangers are and what we stand for. A "generic devotion" followed by a group cheer doesn't do that. > What items do you buy? > >$10,000 seems too much funding.. Take the money and run! <G> You will eventually need it. >Humm.. *Now I'd buy some OP numbers, >Patrol boxes and camp cooking stuff.. but zero tents! > >This is just me, but I'd hand the GPH catalog to the parent and >tell then I'm not in the dry goods business<G> > >T-shirt is fine with me to start. The uniform has great value, and should be encouraged. I'm surprised at this one . . . what would a BSA troop be without their uniforms? I don't necessarily advocate providing the entire uniform to every boy, even if you can afford it, but I personally think it's nice when the outpost encourages uniforms and helps facilitate them, especially for boys who truly can't afford one. Jonathan >Doc > > > > > > > __________________________________ Jonathan Trower South Central Region Training Coordinator e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 254-420-1941 RR homepage: http://mis.baylor.edu/trower _______ Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. Please pray for your list sponsor: http://eBible.org/mpj/ To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm http://rangernet.org
