"But the reality is tubeless has weight and tire advantages that are 
noticeable on a ride, ..."

I keep reading assertions like this, but I don't see how its true.
Re weight:
I have two 650b bikes. One is tubeless the other has tubes. The tubes I use 
are 108gr (aka 3.8oz) schwalbe SV14 extralight. I presume my tubeless tires 
have 3oz of sealant in them. Apparently I should add 2oz to each tire after 
6 month or so. I don't see how there is a weight savings here. Certainly 
nothing noticeable.
Re tire advantages (meaning better ride?)
If you are big/heavy enough that you are forced to use higher pressure than 
you otherwise would to avoid pinch flats ok fine. But that is not my 
situation, and I suspect it is not a factor for a lot of riders.

The only advantage of tubeless that I believe is real is not flatting when 
pierced by thorns or staples/wires etc.


On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 12:23:31 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I think the argument James is presenting applies to folks like me, a 57yo 
> guy who's been riding tubed tires for decades and knows what the deal is 
> with them. As I've expressed before (probably in this thread, definitely on 
> this forum), I struggled to figure out tubeless tires on a bike I owned and 
> kinda threw in the towel..tubes work and I understand them. 
>
> But the reality is tubeless has weight and tire advantages that are 
> noticeable on a ride, it's not something arcane like buying a rear derailer 
> with a few grams knocked off. So I watched the Analog live thing on 
> Instagram yesterday and learned a bunch. What was more interesting to me 
> than the project itself was how easy it was for folks with no tire 
> changing/mounting experience to follow. I could "see" them not having to 
> unlearn stuff I know so they could learn a new thing, they just got the new 
> thing as though that's the way it works. It helped a LOT for me to watch it 
> from their POV. 
>
> I thing tubeless makes sense, even if some folks are happy with their 
> tubes. I like friction and indexing, too 😉 

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