I apologize to Peter for sounding patronizing. Happy 4th of July, everyone.
-Jim W. P.S. Just came back from a great sibling/nephew ride in coastal San Diego. It was Hillbornian. Details to follow. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Peter Morgano <[email protected]> wrote: > Haha, it was just a funny comment to me since it came off so patronizing. We > all have our perfect bike in our mind and doubtful we would all agree on the > same thing but it is fun to "discuss" our difference in opinions. > > On Jul 4, 2012 4:50 PM, "newenglandbike" <[email protected]> wrote: > > "I like how anyone who wants options is like a leper, haha. "you have > eccentric hubs" Let us eat cake!" > > LOL! It's a bike Rivendell might offer, that might have vertical dropouts, > or might have horizontal ones. Both afford the user options, both have > drawbacks. Nobody is shunning/oppressing anybody, I don't think! This > is a bicycle forum, so expect some zealotry but don't let it make you feel > bad. :) > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 2:35:58 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: > I like how anyone who wants options is like a leper, haha. "you have > eccentric hubs" Let us eat cake! > > On Jul 4, 2012 2:06 PM, "James Warren" <[email protected]> wrote: > I've had slipping rear wheel problems, it's annoying, and I've even heard of > some reputable people struggle with it. We're capable of functioning with > horizontals, but as Steve said, they can be a pain. > > - Jim W. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 4, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Peter Morgano <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 20 years of riding at least 10 different bikes with horizontal drops, never >> an issue with slipping and again 30 seconds to set up oh and I am 240 and >> rode fixes with horizontal drops, again no slipping. Options are nice, >> especially if they want to get a broad audience. >> >> On Jul 4, 2012 1:34 PM, "PATRICK MOORE" <[email protected]> wrote: >> I agree that verticals are better for derailleurs, but what about >> buyers who may want to use a ss hub or hub gear? Are they to be >> deprived of the cheapest Rivendell? >> >> Note that this comes from someone who overrode Grant's suggestion of >> horizontals for two customs and ended up fixi-fying them: one with an >> ENO and one with replacement 1010s. >> >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Seth Vidal <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Heartily agreed, steve. >> > >> > -sv >> > >> > On Jul 4, 2012 1:11 PM, "Steve Palincsar" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 11:53 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: >> >> > +1 on all that, especially horizontal drops >> >> >> >> Why? They're an enormous pain in the a$$ with no benefit for users of >> >> derailleur drive trains, and this bike is coming with a derailleur drive >> >> train. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > I guess that the Xmart crowd often (not always, of course) >> >> > spends high >> >> > $ on cars and big trucks a lot fancier than many listers own, >> >> > along >> >> > with big TVs, electronic junk and fancy phones/service, at >> >> > least to >> >> > judge by what I see in the parking lot and on the shelves at >> >> > my (as >> >> > rare as possible) trips to the WalMart near my mother's house. >> >> > >> >> > I hope the new bike has horizontal dropouts. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." >> >> Flannery O'Connor >> >> ------------------------- >> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> ------------------------- >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-i6lod4Zn2QJ. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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