Haha, it was just a funny comment to me since it came off so patronizing. We all have our perfect bike in our mind and doubtful we would all agree on the same thing but it is fun to "discuss" our difference in opinions. On Jul 4, 2012 4:50 PM, "newenglandbike" <matthiasbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "I like how anyone who wants options is like a leper, haha. "you have > eccentric hubs" Let us eat cake!" > > LOL! It's a bike Rivendell might offer, that might have vertical > dropouts, or might have horizontal ones. Both afford the user options, > both have drawbacks. Nobody is shunning/oppressing anybody, I don't > think! This is a bicycle forum, so expect some zealotry but don't let > it make you feel bad. :) > > > On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 2:35:58 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: >> >> I like how anyone who wants options is like a leper, haha. "you have >> eccentric hubs" Let us eat cake! >> On Jul 4, 2012 2:06 PM, "James Warren" <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> I've had slipping rear wheel problems, it's annoying, and I've even >>> heard of some reputable people struggle with it. We're capable of >>> functioning with horizontals, but as Steve said, they can be a pain. >>> >>> - Jim W. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 4, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> 20 years of riding at least 10 different bikes with horizontal drops, >>> never an issue with slipping and again 30 seconds to set up oh and I am 240 >>> and rode fixes with horizontal drops, again no slipping. Options are nice, >>> especially if they want to get a broad audience. >>> On Jul 4, 2012 1:34 PM, "PATRICK MOORE" <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree that verticals are better for derailleurs, but what about >>>> buyers who may want to use a ss hub or hub gear? Are they to be >>>> deprived of the cheapest Rivendell? >>>> >>>> Note that this comes from someone who overrode Grant's suggestion of >>>> horizontals for two customs and ended up fixi-fying them: one with an >>>> ENO and one with replacement 1010s. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Heartily agreed, steve. >>>> > >>>> > -sv >>>> > >>>> > On Jul 4, 2012 1:11 PM, "Steve Palincsar" <palin...@his.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 11:53 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: >>>> >> > +1 on all that, especially horizontal drops >>>> >> >>>> >> Why? They're an enormous pain in the a$$ with no benefit for users >>>> of >>>> >> derailleur drive trains, and this bike is coming with a derailleur >>>> drive >>>> >> train. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM, PATRICK MOORE < >>>> bertin...@gmail.com> >>>> >> > wrote: >>>> >> > I guess that the Xmart crowd often (not always, of course) >>>> >> > spends high >>>> >> > $ on cars and big trucks a lot fancier than many listers >>>> own, >>>> >> > along >>>> >> > with big TVs, electronic junk and fancy phones/service, at >>>> >> > least to >>>> >> > judge by what I see in the parking lot and on the shelves >>>> at >>>> >> > my (as >>>> >> > rare as possible) trips to the WalMart near my mother's >>>> house. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > I hope the new bike has horizontal dropouts. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.* >>>> *com <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>. >>>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>>> >> http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>>> . >>>> >> >>>> > -- >>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.** >>>> com <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>. >>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>> > http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." >>>> >>>> Flannery O'Connor >>>> >>>> ------------------------- >>>> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >>>> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >>>> http://resumespecialties.com/**index.html<http://resumespecialties.com/index.html> >>>> ------------------------- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.** >>>> com <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>>> group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com<rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com<rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >>> group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-i6lod4Zn2QJ. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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