"I like how anyone who wants options is like a leper, haha. "you have eccentric hubs" Let us eat cake!"
LOL! It's a bike Rivendell might offer, that might have vertical dropouts, or might have horizontal ones. Both afford the user options, both have drawbacks. Nobody is shunning/oppressing anybody, I don't think! This is a bicycle forum, so expect some zealotry but don't let it make you feel bad. :) On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 2:35:58 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: > > I like how anyone who wants options is like a leper, haha. "you have > eccentric hubs" Let us eat cake! > On Jul 4, 2012 2:06 PM, "James Warren" <jimcwar...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> I've had slipping rear wheel problems, it's annoying, and I've even heard >> of some reputable people struggle with it. We're capable of functioning >> with horizontals, but as Steve said, they can be a pain. >> >> - Jim W. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 4, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> 20 years of riding at least 10 different bikes with horizontal drops, >> never an issue with slipping and again 30 seconds to set up oh and I am 240 >> and rode fixes with horizontal drops, again no slipping. Options are nice, >> especially if they want to get a broad audience. >> On Jul 4, 2012 1:34 PM, "PATRICK MOORE" <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree that verticals are better for derailleurs, but what about >>> buyers who may want to use a ss hub or hub gear? Are they to be >>> deprived of the cheapest Rivendell? >>> >>> Note that this comes from someone who overrode Grant's suggestion of >>> horizontals for two customs and ended up fixi-fying them: one with an >>> ENO and one with replacement 1010s. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > Heartily agreed, steve. >>> > >>> > -sv >>> > >>> > On Jul 4, 2012 1:11 PM, "Steve Palincsar" <palin...@his.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 11:53 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: >>> >> > +1 on all that, especially horizontal drops >>> >> >>> >> Why? They're an enormous pain in the a$$ with no benefit for users of >>> >> derailleur drive trains, and this bike is coming with a derailleur >>> drive >>> >> train. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com >>> > >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> > I guess that the Xmart crowd often (not always, of course) >>> >> > spends high >>> >> > $ on cars and big trucks a lot fancier than many listers >>> own, >>> >> > along >>> >> > with big TVs, electronic junk and fancy phones/service, at >>> >> > least to >>> >> > judge by what I see in the parking lot and on the shelves at >>> >> > my (as >>> >> > rare as possible) trips to the WalMart near my mother's >>> house. >>> >> > >>> >> > I hope the new bike has horizontal dropouts. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> For more options, visit this group at >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >> >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." >>> >>> Flannery O'Connor >>> >>> ------------------------- >>> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >>> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >>> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >>> ------------------------- >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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