+1 for no problems with horiz. dropouts and QRs. I certainly haven't had any issues with slippage on my quickbeam with the stock Suzue QR hub, and I've really stomped on the pedals sometimes. BUT, I do like vertical dropouts nonetheless, since they are just that much easier when you're fixing a flat or what not since the wheel is aligned as soon as you drop it in. If you want to make a SS/fixie, you have eccentric hubs.
On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 1:42:31 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: > > 20 years of riding at least 10 different bikes with horizontal drops, > never an issue with slipping and again 30 seconds to set up oh and I am 240 > and rode fixes with horizontal drops, again no slipping. Options are nice, > especially if they want to get a broad audience. > On Jul 4, 2012 1:34 PM, "PATRICK MOORE" <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree that verticals are better for derailleurs, but what about >> buyers who may want to use a ss hub or hub gear? Are they to be >> deprived of the cheapest Rivendell? >> >> Note that this comes from someone who overrode Grant's suggestion of >> horizontals for two customs and ended up fixi-fying them: one with an >> ENO and one with replacement 1010s. >> >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Heartily agreed, steve. >> > >> > -sv >> > >> > On Jul 4, 2012 1:11 PM, "Steve Palincsar" <palin...@his.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 11:53 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: >> >> > +1 on all that, especially horizontal drops >> >> >> >> Why? They're an enormous pain in the a$$ with no benefit for users of >> >> derailleur drive trains, and this bike is coming with a derailleur >> drive >> >> train. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > I guess that the Xmart crowd often (not always, of course) >> >> > spends high >> >> > $ on cars and big trucks a lot fancier than many listers own, >> >> > along >> >> > with big TVs, electronic junk and fancy phones/service, at >> >> > least to >> >> > judge by what I see in the parking lot and on the shelves at >> >> > my (as >> >> > rare as possible) trips to the WalMart near my mother's >> house. >> >> > >> >> > I hope the new bike has horizontal dropouts. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com >> . >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> "Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you." >> >> Flannery O'Connor >> >> ------------------------- >> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> ------------------------- >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gh3WEfWNWRoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.